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WY of DEN'tON, TEXAS MUNICIPAL BUILDING / DENTON, TEXAS 78201 /TELEPHONE (817) fi88.8307 l
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M E M O R A N D U M
TO! Lloyd V, HaLrell, City Manager
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DATE: February 27, 1991
SUBJECT: Completion of Oak/Hickory and the CXP Sidewalks
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I Attached are two letters from Engineering indicating that these
I 1 two projects are completed with the exception of the final `
i hydromulch. We have paid the contractors all of their money {
f and held back the hydromulch' pending warmer weather when that c
II will be done. As you can see in both memos, we were -able to i
bring each of the contracts in under oontr.Act.' Obviously, we
are extremely pleased by that, In the case of Oak and Hickory,
as you know, that was a very long project and one that
f necessitated a lot of inconvenience to traffic, You might also i
remember that we found numerous obstacles once we got: into the
project. I am very pleased that our people were ab1A to bring
the project in under bid despite the delays and obstacles,
The sidewalk project was a much smaller project, and I am vary J
pleased by all the savings, we were able to make by making
adjustments in the field, I'm real pleased with the outcome of
the projects. T hope you and the Council axe as satisfied.
it you have any questions, please call.
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MEMORANDUM
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DAT$: February 19, 1991
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Toi David Salmon, Civil Engineer
1 FAOMI Jim dray, project Inspector
SUBJECT: Oak, Hlckoryr & Pry Street Paving rind Drainage I
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f The Oak, Hickory, and Fry Street Paving and Drainage project was awarded
to Jago• publlo for 81,2230394.73 with 158 days to complete the project.
Total cost of the project was 81,182477,446 This was a savings of
840,516,99 or 3,3t of the total contract, The project was completed in
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Two change orders were necedenry, Change Order No, 1
{ necessitated by additional (t aloe 1 98) was
paving and yoncrete'ppvement along Fry street
between Oak and Hickory, 1
11 , Change Order No, 2 (630,016,25) was required in
order to replace old lead jointed waterline from bonnie Brae to Thomas
Street and was in conflict with paving grades.
OAX ST" XT PAVri1G 4 DRAIMAOR
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3-8 Remove con* C i Gotter 150822480 15054600 469060
44-2 6" rime Treated Subgrade ' 31,496475 30,720.00 77805
4,6YA Typo A Hydrated Lime 81 26,600.00 21,836.50 31613660
507 A 2 BNAC (Type A) 640061440 $9,261480 4099160 f
5478 45' (Type A) 120,843470 1201560470
6.7-D 2* HMAC Type b 80575400 70314000 l f206,
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842-A Concrete C,4 cutter 53,77240 51,714.00 20058,0
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8615-A Concrete Rip Rap 1 (3$7,50 400 10057650
843-13 6' Cooorete Driveway 520005.60 41,666.21 10 339,29
SP-2 Conorets Saw Out 2115440 11988.00
8p-41 Adjust Piro Hydrant 2r000.00 1 $00400
2412 3-0 210 Class IV RCP 0500,00 574dOb
2.1203E Class III Rop 6,919.00 6,8/0.00 71.00
2,12.3-H 18" Class IV ACP 37,140,00 941320400 30120600
2,12.3-L 36' class IV RCP 8048,00 40312,00 3x836,00
1207744.00 120366,00 316.00
2,12,3-N 03 bireot Dr Sox Culvert 27,52540 261570,80 95440
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IT" DESCRIPTION ESTIMATE COST REDUCTION
2,12 3-0 Standard Box Culvert 9,460.00 8,600.00 860.00
i 7.6.A-1 4' Manhole 800.00 .00 800400
7,6,A-2 5' Manhole 6 Cover 7,000600 50600.00 10400,00
7.6.A-4 50 J sox 13,650.00 11,375.00 2,215.00
7.6,A-8 8" Curb Inlet 27,900600 260350.00 10560,00
SP-274A Sewer 8ervioe Adjustment 0000,00 5,850100 21850.00
SP-4 Lower Waterline 15.400.00 14,000400 10400.00
!1 SP-10 Rock Excavation 11500.00 .00 10500.00
SP-21 Prenah Drain 31632.00 72040 2,912100
3.9.3 St Augustine sod 11846.40 720.00 11126,40
f TOTAL RELUCTtONS
50.423.04..
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k 3-A Remove Concrete Paving 784,00 2,829,88 2,048,89
3-C Remove Concrete Drive 4 SW 12,260600 110864,00 604.00
5,7-C 1,5" RNAC Type 0 410341,45 42{900.00 10558.05
54-A41 60 Conorste Platwork 9,870400 140821.45 40951,45
8015-B Concrete Plume 300600 600400 300600
SP-47 Concrete Steps (sot of 3) 900400 10050000 160400
SP-15,9 Adjust Manhole 3,200,00 40000600 800400
SP-15,A Adjust V#10* 5 100,00 60800,00 10700,00
2,12,3-A 18' Clare III RCP 91396400 11,664000 21268.00
2412,3-C 240 Class III RCP 190565,00 21,547650 1,98x. s0
2.1363-1 21" Class IV RCP 40352,00 S+3440.00 992,00
II 2.12,3-J 24' Class IV RCP 15,76800 17092145n 2,153,50
( 1 2.12,3-M 420 Class IV RCP 26,770000 260833,$6 63,56
7,64A-3 50 J Box 50175.00 100$040 50175,00
241105 Inlet Proms i Cover 3,250.00 41000600 750,00
SP-31.A' Break into existing Inlet 500400 20000.00 10500.00
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" TOTAL OVERAGES 26,493.95 ~
TOTAL. EXTRAS 3,737,70
TOTAL OVERAGES i EXTRAS 30,731;65 I
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TOTAL CONTRACT EXPENSC` 850,469,61
HYDROMULCH (SE4 ATTACHMENT A) 40039,00
TOTAL CONTRACT ENTTMT.TOs 8740200,00
TOTAL SAVINGS 190691.39
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HICKORY STREET PAVING 6 DRAINAGE
ITEM DESCRIPTION ESTIMATE COST OVERAGE
406-H 6" Lime TroAted Subgrade 50286,00 5,542050 1 256.50
50-A 2" HMAC (Type A) 9,778080 100306.60 527,8u
5,7-c 1,5' NNAC (Type b) 61658.55 6,966,00 307.45
8,2-A Conorete Curb 6 Gutter 50820,00 50928.00 108,00
3.7 compacted Fill 160.00 2,580.00 21430,00
2,12.9 3" Galy Rigid Conduit 20170.00 21520.00 350,00
TOTAL OVERAGE 3,979.75
TOTAL EXTRAS 9660,40
TOTAL OVERAGE 6 EXTRAS 1 13,640.15
ITEM D46CRIPTION ESTIMATE COST REDtlCTXS N
3-8, Remove Concrete C 6 0 10616,40 11429.20 1 187,20
3-C Remove C060 Drive 6 SW 920,00 812400 100.40
4.6-A Type A Hydrated film* Slurry 31606,00 400 3,600,00
567-9 (.6" HMAC Type A 170962,60 17>214.40 748,20 ;
f 567-D 26 HMAC Patch 350400 105,00 24540
5,8•A.1 f" Concrete Flatwork 70540 400 706400 1
i 5,8«A624 0 Conorete Flatwork 4,46040 48040 3,9.Q0;00
j 518-A.3. 4° Pattern 6 Color Cana 1060600 450.20 114J9r80
? SP-42 Pattern 4 Color Cona 1,600000 ,00 11600,00 '
80-8 6" Conorete Driveway 30,199,00 9172743 471,17
I SP-15.A Adjust Valves 680000 $10400 170400
SP-15,8 Adjust Manhole 10200,00 800400 460400
SP-2 Concrete saw Cut 450,00 409,00 41.00 j
2912,3-C 24' Class IV RCP 2105440 1809640 3,35~~~00
2,12 3-B 210 C1684,1V 1,792400 1,536600 256400
SP-10 Rook E!rcevation 1,500400 600 1 500.00 i
SP-27,2, Water &*evict Adjustment 1,800.00 900000 1900 00
' SP-27,A Sewer SekVioe Adjustment 11800,00 600,00 1,200.00 ~
$P-21 pr*nch Drain 2,584,00 400 2, 584.60
3,9.3 At Augustin# Sod 32.00 ,00 32600 ;
+ TOTAL REDUCTIONS 23,495,37
I TOTAL EXTRAS 6 OV8RA0E 13,64001$
I` TOTAL CONTRACT COST 128x174.11
iIYDROMULCH (899 ATTACHMENT A) 70400
TOTAL CONTRACT HSTIMATE 1138,499,33
TOTAL SAVINGS 19,855,20
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PRY STRERT PAVING
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t ITEM DESCRIPTION ESTIMATE COST REDUCTION
4,6-B 60 Lima 'treated Subgrade 5034450 50581.50 153.00
' 4.6-A Type A Hydrated Lime 3,900.00 2,861.33 1,036467
5.7-8 4.5 HMAC Type A 17,922.00 17,475.40 446,60
5,'-F 8' HMAC Valley Gutter 264.00 .00 264000
8.3-A 4" Conofete Drive 20280.00 400 21280.00
843-8 6' Coftorets Drive 13,066000 12,607.75 158.25
SP-41 AdjustPiro Hydrant 500.00 ,00 500400
{ SP-16A Adjust Valve 510.00 340400 170400
SP-15B Adjust Manhole 800.00 600000 200400
SP-2 Concrete Saw Cut 528.00 76.00 X152100
SP-21 Pr4nch'Drain 8,000,00 600 8,000.00
! 3.9.3 St Augustine 'Sod 246140 .00 246440
8.7 RMV & Rplc Conc Rot Wall 11974;00 400 1,974.00
TOTAL REDUCTIONS 16,182492
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3-A Remove Concrete Paving 245.00 333169 884r69
3-B Remove Concrete C & 0 2,664000 2,930.40 266446
5.8-A41 6" Concrete Flatwork 540.50 10086,27 445497
842-A Concrete Curb & Gutter 8,706400 8,162.00 06100
TOTAL RHDUCTIONS 160182.92
TOTAL EXTRAS & OVERAGE 20046.74
TOTAL CONTRACT COST 74,492.03
HYDROMULCH (SEE ATTACHMENT A) 53$.50
TOTAL CONTRACT ESTIMATE 8870123.69
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TOTAL SAVINGS 8140136.16
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OAR STREET SIDEWALKS
ITEM E1SCRIPTION ESTIMATE COST OVERAGE
843-A 4' Cbncreto Sidewalk 480730.50 52,106.51 3,376.01
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ITEM DESCRIPTION ESTIM TE COST .ED CT ON
3-C Remove Concrete Sidewalk 11,258.25 90027.00 21231,20
SP-2 Concrete saw cut 400.00 .00 400 00 '
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TOTAL REDUCTIONS
TOTAL OVERAGE 2,631,
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TOTAL CONTRACT COST 620681,94
TOTAL CONTRACT ESTIMATE $61.937.18
TOTAL CONTRACT OVERAGE a 744.76 i 1
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SP-15,0 Adjust Manhole 250.00 000 250400
TOTAL CHANGE ORDERS TO CONTRACT j
3-9 Remove Coma, C A 0 954.00
3-c Remove Como, Drives 42,68
3-C Remove Sidewalk 10696000 I
Additional HMAC 10891440
8.2-A Como Curb i Gutter 3x408400
568-A-1 6" Coto tletwork 540.50
80-A 4' Como S/W 131183,40
843-8 6' Como D/W 11343.00
SP-2 Concrete saw 424600 '
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TOTAL CHANGE ORDER 20,927.98
i EXTRASi Breaking -Out Concrete 309400
Build Inlet Yop $75,00
TOTAL CHANGE ORDER S EXTRAS 22038248
TOTAL CONTRACT ESTIMATE 111906430
TOTAL REDUCTIONS
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TOTAL CONTRACT COST 11065600
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TOTAL CONTRACT COST 111686,30
TOTAL CHANOE ORDER g EXTRAS
TOTAL COST 3a, 3 ,28
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u Due to winter temperatures, the contractor has elected to plant ;eye grass at this
f time. ' The oontraotor will come back in the opting and establish hydromulch on the
project at which time the remaining hydromulch funds (;40644,50) will be plaid,
We recommend acceptanoe of this project and release of all funds _except the
hydromulch, The final receiving report to close Purchase Order 95983 will be
( processed after hydromulch operations are completed, Purchase Order 98806 may be
closed with final payment as all work is complete for lowering the water line,
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MPMORANDUM
DATE: February 19, 1991
\lf k Tos David salmon, Civil 8ngineer
FROMs b.C. Draper, Project inspectoC
SUBJECTI Overview of 1990 CIP`Sidewalks aid 01127
The 1990 CIF sidewalk project wus awarded to Larry Manning Incorporated
for a bid prise of $134,351.60. A total of 40 working days were allotted
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September 27# 1990 and work began, on October 4,`1990.
The prcjeot e ted an February 18, 1991 for $108,201.38. This 14 a 1
. ? eavings of w {19.468) under contract. There will be $2,407.90
retained fnr hydromulah that will be completed after April lp 1991.
i Ovetages and reductions are as follows 4
E'xEl1 DEBCRIpTY4M OVER RE&'1CTION l
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3.541 Remove Concrete C & a 147.50
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' 3- 662 Remove Conarere curb
3.C Remove Drive & sidewalk 377.01
SP-46 Remove concrete steps
SP-47 Concrete Steps 7,980.00 #
87.A Concrete Retaining Wall (A) 3,273.76
863-A 41 Concrete Sidewalk 200,00
0►15 Concrete Rip-rap t
sp12 Concretesaw Cut 931,40 I'
Hydromulori i
Bt. Auguetino Sod 1,]64.00
Si e- water service Adjustment 2,20040
SP-27.11 sewer service Adjustment 10400.00 I:
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I SP-41) Fire Hydrant Adjustment 750400
14,925,00
SP-21 French brain
1,21 Contractor Warranties
3.1 Prep of Right-of-Way
8.1 Barridades, warning signs, detours
SP-39 Project Signs 480.00
SP-34 2' schedule 80 PVC
SP-49 Misc sprinkler
3 31013 seeding
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s EXTRAS: 4" Concrete Sidewalk 31989,28
Concrete Ra+d Cut 54,00
Remove Curb s Gutter 105400
Water Service Adjuetmant 200.00 i
St. Augstine Sod 225,00
i 6" Concrete Driveway 607037
Excavation $00.00
New Curb 4 Gutter 192.00
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BID PRICE $134,351,60
4 OVERAGES 60751.55
4` - REDUCTIONS 321901.77
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The contractor is to be commended for quality construction of the project E
whiCh enhances the esthetics of each neighborhood affected.
If you need further information, please advise.
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August 22, 1990 I
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TO: Lloyd Harrell, City Manager
FROM: Jerry Clark, Director of Engineering & Transportation
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1 SUBJECT: Street Lighting -'oak & Hickory
j Fry to Avenue C Area
1 T have enclosed the petition of business owners on Oak and
Hickory near Fry street requesting continuing s cefntensade I
for street lighting in their area, During the
utility construction on Hickory street, temporary lights was ;
used by water and sewer crews to `work at night, i,
This area on the north" boundary of UNx, has, many small
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businesses, restaurants, and apartment complexes that need
proper lighting for their clients, poles to support the street
lights are existing almost everywhere so capital costs are
minimal. ;
I have been -getting costs and concepts from Bob Nelson's
people, The total cost per year will be leas than 12000, Our
total budget for 1990-91 included X8,000 for expansion. The
remaining funds will be used to cover reworking dthpeossiblys o ne
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the Square, Bonnie Brae along the new paving,
other small project,
Please let me know if further information is needed.
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-bsst Thursday night..ut,en leuVing our pLaOa n; ~ueineee~ we
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noticed h,)%, right the 1200 hl 119 of hickory 'aao.. go that
01ty of Denton vOrk orows oould finish tha repaying Of Hickory
Streot bofore U,N,2~,.begins the Pall Osmeetar, lights had been put on aVery polo to allow the 010x4 to work well, past -Ildnight,
Considering that this area( inOluding Fry St, and Ave, 'A) Me
several bare and reetnurante that attract largo nw,ib0is of patrons
until past midnight, we foot it would be vronderful if the oity
erould leave those lights permanently and to inoreasa the lighting
on Avonue A , Pry`Straet, and the 1300 blank of Niokory,
'.,a beliovo that tho inoreasod lighting would make s mush more
aeoure and safe area for all (patrons, employees, and residants)
conoerned,
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Hilly Shears Salon ;
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Rhonda NPDOneld
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Silly Shears Sarlon'
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E' CITY OF DENTCiN
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DATEt Ataqu':k 3iii 1990
TO' Mayor Bob Cast l ober•ry i
/ FFiCM: Jesus Nava. Jr., Assistant to the City Manogor
` LL c{JBJEC:T: f~ETITION FROM THE FRY/HlCK0RY/AVENUEWA MERCHANTS
Friday afternoon, a pi~titIon was ~dr~livdre?dby Mr.
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tr>neb+i~'ner, , owner of Ni l l y Shears Salon, ' on bohal f of the Fry
lflrsat, Hickory, ants AV8nQe A merchantoi
that the additional light% that have been installedito facilitate
the Hickory Strm4t roconstrt,ictian words (during 'he night)bay left
in pl Aae after the work is completdd. Tho merchants fehil 'thikt
the lights will aosist in,reducing criminal Activity in the? area.
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Fl~ Odd as A side note that the, indiVidUAIS on the patitian Z
have 41BO bean participating in lihe Wass 00nton, Owsley Additiwn, j
f rOPN m i ghbor•hacid Mee" ngs, Their, bi p4pst issue 1% t
activity that ,aGcurs alongthe Fsoy Stroet•-Hickory bLimine9jt reA;
Tha . dltry Department will be rospohdinp to their conderho and
hopofi.ill/ allpviatp soma of their problsms.
Finally, I have upokon to s ~ ~
MA,otAininy the '1 iphtpafter•~iths work~isadon thHaf haarirsque tad i
his sl:aff to rpvisw thy, Applicable ardlnantes pertAininy to
sfrlbotl fighting in order to lime what the City cash dd, He
hasi ciao .
ask--ad them to deV616P costs rail Atad to the prove si orl of any
additional liilhting services. WW will report the 41ndin'g as soon i~
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Rl9r,~se lpt me know if I non he tyf further a4sistsnce on this E
mattu?r. A copy of the petition is att'phed for yrsur.infarm~tidn.-
c Lloyd V. Haf1ral l , Ci by , Manager I
Bob Nelson, 5Xeputi vq Dir~artor of Utilities
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notiood hour bright the 1200 block of lliokory was. So that
City of Denton work crows could finish the repaving of Rlol~ory
street be:Core U,14'1', begins the fall. seraeater,,Iighta Thad been
put on ovary polo to allow the crews to vory- VOIl past ' rnl.dn ght,
donaidering that thin area( including Fryr pnd Me. A) we
aoveral barn and restaurants that attraot tar` u`>ters of patxann
until pant midnight, we feel it would be wonderx.•'i r the city I
would leave these lights permanontly and to inoreab,, "a lighting 1
on Avenue A , Fry Street, and the 1.300 block of Mokcr,':
We believe that the increased lighting would make a muh more
socure and safe area for all (patrons, employees, and reoidents)
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SUBJECT: Hickory Street Sewer and Water installation
i would like to commend your field crew who worked to complete
the Hickory Street water main and sanitary sewer replacement in
such a timely manner. Because your crew went beyond the normal
call of duty working late into the evenings, our paving project
will stay close to its original schedule.
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The subgrade on Hickory street was prepared yeeterdby and
paving should begin today.'
Again, thank you for your division's cooperation' and dedication
I to quality service,
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OFFICE OF THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF UTILITIES
MEMORANDUM
DUPLICATE
DATES August 14, 1990
TOs Bill Brown, Supt,, Water/WW Field Services
FROMs R.E, Nelsen, Executive Director of Utilities
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REt Hickory Street Work
Pleaso extend a very speoial thanks to everyone in your
organization for a Job well done on Hickory Streetl
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f complete the project in such a short time, It was a tremendous
effort where everyone demonstrated a team effort,
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MEMORANDUM
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SU43JEC'1, Oak, Hickory, & Fry Status Report
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I would dike to eiaee y moving brief summary asphalt downrongboth
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I Oak and Hickory between Jagoe and Watch before uNT registration, i
the tuaton
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the crewssiEromi WateKit&
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Lines with
1 necessary due to the 12" lead joint waterline rupturing.
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It had proper depth, We are attempting to keep
iabilities from reoccurring to protect our large investment'.
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Hickory str Welch ry had been crushed. ine This
,ould Dull have happened during construction aaorapleted byrMondayn ,
earlier date, This seweeline will also be
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MEMORANDUM
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T0; Rick Svehla, Depu}:y City Manager
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David Salmon, Civil Engineer
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SUS.74CT: Hickory street paving
According to soils testa conducted by Terra-mar Incorporated,
the Pi of the soil on Hickory street is 11. Normally with low
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1 of the subgrade, Cement stabilization coats approximately
1i 1 twice as much as lime stabilization Which was specified for the
I project, It would also' take 14 days between the cement
application and paving operations.
D to costs and mainly time fdct,_)rs, I felt that it was
I I appropriate. to allow for two extra i~ahes of, Type A asphalt in
lieu of treating the subgrode, i feel confident with this ;aa
the existing base is very hard. There are a couple of soft
` spots that will be removed, All ditch lines were backfilfod
with ens sack cement stabilized baekf,ill, With deleting the
lime that was specified, the extra asphalt will be somewhat
more expensive, but less expensive than cement stabili,zat:ion,'
The stain factor is the time involved. By deleting the
stablization of subgrade and adding the asphalt, aagoe public
should be laying asphalt on Hickory Street by .Saturday, August
4th,
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The City of Denton0 Public Works Department, Nnginaoring section has completed
I plane for the reconstruction of oak street from Carroll Blvd. west to
Mounts street and from Pry Street west to Bonnie bras.
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This project Will consist of removing the existing attest (its. concrete curb
and drive approaches, asphalt street Aurfaoef eto6) and constructing a now
street# rt "e~ tfeet~ (3~6F~)'.baak4oi.bui;q;,ter,il6ebk:ef~
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ad'rbr +rit'1ir ndril + fb'u~1 'j f~ ` A f~~a~~' tlrj a All improvements necessary for
I this street reoonstiuctlon are funded through -the street bond approved by, the
E~ voters in the 1985 election.
{ The -construction plans Will be available for your review and,question$
f beginning December 11, 1989 through 00ember 150 1969 betrrwn the hours of
800 mom, to 500 pm, in the engineerl'ng section of the Municipal Building
located at 215 E, McKinney Street
If you are unable to attend at the above time, you may taIaphone
(8171-566-8958 for any information regardLnq this prajoot4
Your cooperation with this project will be appreciated.
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Engineering Tech Supervisor
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M E M O R A N D U M
TO: Lloyd V. Hairrrell, City Manager
FROM. Rick SVehla, Doputy City Manager
DATE: August 9, 1989 E
SUBJECT: Street Paving Issues
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upcoming activities. We mentioned that we would be working on
oak and Hickory in the near future. As you may recall, that is
part of the bond projects, and it was also part of our budget
proposal this year.
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Most of Hickory Street will be able to be done with Street
Department personnel. The only sections that will not be done
by theca are sections where there will be drainage; work such as
the intersections of Hickory and Fry, Avenue 0. etc, we will
begin milling this week on the west end of Hickory and continue
toward the east during the week. We will also begin the
repaving activities shortly thereafter.
The main reason we are trying to work on Hickory right now is
f because University activities will be minimal next week and the
l first part of the following week since graduation will occur
this Sunday, Of particular note will be the section between
Avenue a and Welch Street. We will be trying to do the f
majority of this work the weekend of August 19 and 20, We Will
be trying to do most of the milling activities on Saturday the
19th and the paving activities will be done on Sunday the j
20th. We are doing this in order to hit the break at North
Texas and to have as little effect as possible on the merchants
in the area around Avenue A and Fry Street.
We will be doing as much advertising and notification as
possible next weak. We will be delivering notices door-to-door
in the early part of next week, and we will be trying to get
some notification in the paper and on the radio stations If
possible.
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August 9. 1989
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We wanted to wake sure you and the Council were aware of the '
Elotivities and of our efforts to coordinate as much as possible
` with the merchants and North Texas, If you or the Council has`
siny further questions, please contact us at your convenience.
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DATA:. March 6, 1989
on Oak and Hickory street
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Counail: aISO asked for Some
At the last council meeting,
we counted Oafs street; either early in
Of late at night beeauae We were trying to
information on parkingo the day, !
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ascertain how many residents use the arrest, Durin j
increased numbers due to the
I both Hickory and Oak street) the arsa from Avenue E to
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used, There are also a
Student activity, on Hickory
j_ north side is heavily
Avenue A on the
street, theree Jk that
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parking west of Avenue C on both
concentration of traffic and
aides of the street for several hundred feet.
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During the late oeven hours
large concentrati the parking that is left CAngregatos on Oak.
use., basically,
We counted both Oak and Hickory several days last week and the
counts are attached.
trig eng hours is pretty
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As you can see, parking during
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ndicateS toc us that over th w eekeita
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street. Tt also Seems
tree were more Cars parked on the st.xeet• we think t hat be due to weather or to more people having guests over.
if we can provide further 'information for you or the LCUnoil,
we would be happy to do sG.
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Carroll Welch Avenue C
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2/28/89 (7;10 a.m.) 13 5 6
! 3/01/19 (7.15 aim.) 21 13 16
I 3/02/89(7:20 a.m.) 11 5 8 j
3/03/89 (9':30 p,to ) 11 4 q
3/04/89 (7:00 a.m.) 12 q 5
3/05/89 (700 a.m,) 20 7, 22
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3/02/89 (7,25 a.tn.) 1.2 15
3/03/89 (9:30 P,m.) 13 12
3/04/89 (7:10 am,) 7 18
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oak & hickory Streets
Denton, TX
i Door Oak ar Hickory Street Resident:
on. March 7, the City council will discuss the Oak t}:nd Hickory
t paving projects of their 7 p.m. meeting. At this meeting, they
will discuss such issues as width an& parking, - They have
received all of the minutes £'rom the Planning & zoniiag
i Coatalission and the Historic:' LandmaO. Commission meetings as
j 1 well as information from the staff.
The City Council has asked staff to notify raH.idents and land
4 tiwnera of this meeting. This atom Will be addressed in the
early portion of the meeting, if you have ftitther questions,
We will be happy to try and answer them for you. 1 Can be
reached at 566-8307. r:
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Dear Mayor Stephens and Members of Council,
The Oak and Hickory Street area is important to the City of Denton for
several rQasOns; as the focal point .fox our historic preservati efforts, because
of it's unique
paslHon as a l on
argely intact, older residential
for it's plac neighborhood, and
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k I ty pride,
j t Currently the planting staff is recommending that council approve a
k t Oak. PrSt, oposal tole den portions of Oak St. to 37'. Through the Historic D I
s in width from 34' to 35,5', From A istrlet,
street averages 36' in width, Ye "C" to Eonnle Brae the
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There are many reasons that the. residents of Oak are o f
Pposed to
Li I widening the street , but probably the most promineht of these fears are of
future traffic plans for the neighborhood, in a`memo dated
trick Svehla to Lloyd Harrell, Sept, 1, 1998, from i
it to mentioned as a posslbi]!h+
converting , ,someday
(Oak and Mckory) to a one way Nuplet." ;ln furthOr conversations t
it has been suggested
that with a 37' wide street, it will be possible to remove
on•street parking and have a 6-lane couplet from the
Uare 1-
Another thing wt+ residents are concerned aboutis
thetora35t
Transportation flan to extend Oak and Mcko p poses in the
industrial park via Jim Crtstal Rd„ ry out to the new airport
Although this would no doubt not
happen for many Years wtt view any attempts to widen our strait t
` odaY, as but
an incremental step towards implementing that plan.
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By way of AASHTO Guidelines page 3
construction I have consult
manual us ed with the AASkITO
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accepted street cons ;l urdon y o
8 department . for co
they state that; "Lan ue standards, In their s
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action on Urban mm Arterri lals
In hihl rya v f m
{ us $ Y restrlcEed areas having ItttIe or no 2 , The truck ]0' widths are used
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lt- r urban r txafftc, ThQ t, la
that 12' lanes are desirable for a 1al a are '
higher s eat est s II The
A characterization that d PeQd, free- Y go on to state
r^ ~ I narrower l oes not apply to Oak an flowing, prtnapal arterials,ll
they
apes continue "t 1 and 1~llckory, On the sub
u~--- lhrau nder Interrupt~.f] }act of ;
i ~w saw . ow {a a~ a aryl hati.r~~ a~ 1 operating conditions
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number of lanes in res` Reduced lane widthse
move erected right-of"way and allow allow greater
menu because of r better Pedestrian cross
educed distance, The
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Pedestrian cross traffic there is a u
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~ economy, it has and these safety factors mount of
been esHmat should be considered,
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the tax ed that reducing ,it for
x,000, $ the street width by 2'
In the s section a could save I+
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The M•Street Situation
6 The ?'k(I~ Streets in Dallas I
Of Oak and:Hicko have experience
have aver the Streets in beryton, gm Problems similar to those
years seen their trat'.hc rafts incre family residential streets that
I (r sPortadon Plany
as and been
Seco
ndary Arterials, Plana from reclassified in
than the ultimate
7a width of these streets m the 1960's indicated '
as arterials should be f tllow 1
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wen in9 on two sides of the street ex In addition
ae t for the $k
parking Ott one side of the street is pro
I Where the situations differ is In the hibitpd, U" Periods
the two cities approach tO the Problem
In da11a®, the city staff and a ci taken by
meeting to fired a way to reduce traffic in ttzens mmmittea have
the nelghborh been
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however, the plans call for reducing the neighborhood to facilitate traffic
flow, downgrading
Some of the solutions considered in Pallas have been,
lector and al the the street status to resid ent awiden the streetst hetCity of Dallas i standards for
signs. There are no plan
street lane width are as follows:
Standard width 12'- for new construction
t Minimum Standards •10'-11' "acceptable for existing streets
Options
It is !Not my intention to bore you with mountains of quotes concerning
alternate opinions on the best size for street lane widths. What I hope to
demonstrate, though, is that there area range of options open to equitably
solve the problem of repaving Oak and Hickory Streets, The standards used
i by our engineering staff are at the high end of the range of those of commonly
p, pSH I'O indicates that there are a
accepted in' the engineering communltyt
variety of criteria used to determine proper street width.
1 n the maximum size street width used for new street
' certainly, app Yi g neighborhood is one
construction in an existing and culturally significant
j option, but T Would hope that a higher set of standards would be used in this
situation,
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me Denton
in closing T would remind you of the language in the
backbone of
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C~evelopment flan: in which. neighborhoods are a don for Specific '
( ( our communlty". There Is, in that document, al ions derar
which are deemed worthy of `receiving sped
Areas S
residential neig
Sp+acifically mentioned are sites neighborhoods, historic
the conservation
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sites of valuable architectural heritage, (and) sites
of natural resources (tre(s)." It also states that in the case of capital
improvements, ,e)isting neighborhoods will be given specific consideration
to en5ure stability,' t
that the problem of east-west traffic flow in the city is a ;
1 recognize that the problems can be
contplex one with no easy solutions, I feel, though,
solved creatively, without threatening the viability and stability of one of the
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oldest, :residential neighborhoods in Denton,
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I would therefore, respectfully suggest the following as possibilities:
1. Since there exists no compelling need to widen our streets at the
present time, that the existing "footprint" of the streets should be
retained. (Unless it is deemed prudent to narrow portions of W,
Hickory, )
2. The Secondary Arterial status of the streets should be more fully
examined with an eye to downgrading it to Collector status In the
Transportation Plan,
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'rhomas , consideration should be given to limiting It during peak
~ hours.
4. A citizens group should be formed to ►lork with the city staff to
j study east-west traffic flow through the neighborhood with an eye to
' deve.toping creative solutions to the problem,
f 5. If necessary, the speed limit should be lowered to 20 mph on Oak
I and Hickory Streets in deference to staffs concerns for safety,
I recognize that it is a difficult question and a had one to, call
city is more than Just a collection of en rin ,gut a
8 8 principles and if it is to
retain any charactt~r, any uniqueness, it must place tradition on a hi
pedestal and fight to preserve it's eccentricities.
Thank you for your consideration in this matter,
Mike Cochran
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T OIHce of the 0!!y Monagor
M E M O R A N D U M
TO,. Lloyd V, Harrell, City Manager
FROM: Rick Svehla, Deputy City Manager ,
DATE. February 16, 1989
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SUBJECT; Lane Width on Oak & Hickory
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Attached you will find the minutes of the Historic Landmark
Commission and the Planning and Zoning Commission from the
discussions on Oak and Hickory,' As you can see from the'
minutes, there was lengthy discussions at both meetings.
Besides that, we have had a number of neighborhood meat ings t~
E try and disseminate information and to gather comments,
We have attempted to look at each of the streets individually
and in some instances, specific pieces of it, in each of thew
cases, the Historic Landmark Commission and P & Z clads specific
recommendations about these sections, Finally, we have added
an option or affect column for the Council to consider when
reviewing these roads,
{ Hickory Street from Welch to Bonnie Brae had the least amount
of comments and the least amount of public input. The existing
street section varies In Width from 36, to 451, The Stiff
original proposal was for 37, of width which would provide two
lanes of traffic and one lane of parking and' could ultimately
be to-aligned to three lanes of traffic it such a heed ever
materialized. The Historic Landmark Commission did not co►nment
much on the section from Welch to Bonnie Brae. They 'were wore
concerned -with the section from Welch to Carroll, Their main
comment was to convert Hickory to a,'twoi~way street for the
length of it. Several months ago, Council asked that Staff
investigate the possibility of doing a comprehensive review 'of
our' transportation plan. We have been collecting proposals
from contultants and Coo regarding performing this work and
will be submitting a proposal for consideration- during the
budget process, our suggestion `would be to wait' and look at
this option in a comprehensive way at the time the
transportation plan -review is authorized by the Council.
Nothing in this proposal would preclude making such a shift it
such was determined to be desirable at a later date.
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Planning and Zoning's comment was that, It should remain as it
s is with the proviso that parking could be deleted (i.e. the
street could be narrowed) in front of multi-family or
non-residential property. This woul(' mean that the street
could vary from 34' to 36' of width for two lanes of traffic
and one lane of parking in existing sections depending on how
much of the gutter section would be used for the parking lane 1
and to 37' if you wanted to narrow some of the 45' sections.
Our suggestion would be to standardize it to 371. It still
eliminatea the wide excessive pavements and yet provides us
with flexibility ii the future, Staff feels that this.standard
is basically consistent with discussions at the P & Z level and
design work can commence.
On soak Street, there was much more aomment from Carroll to
j Bonnie Brae. We have broken' it into several sections to
clarity some of the suggestions of HU and p & z since there
were separate comments made for separate.areas,
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I From Carroll to 1AVenue C, the width varies from 34 1/4' to 361
wide, and the street i,s basically, two lanes of travel and one
lane of parking, In some of the western sectional there has
not been any history of parking on the street. Again, our
1 original staff proposal was for a 37' roadway which would have
allowed two -lanes of traffic, one lane of parking and the
possibility; of converting the street to three lanes,. The
i Historic Landmark Commission suggested that the exact footprint
+ be rebuilt for this section of street, i.e. the street would
f1 vary froft 34 l/4' to 36'. They also wanted us to look at
converting it to a two-way street section. We would suggest
this should be looked at when we look at the overall
i transportation plan. Planning & Zoning, also recommended that
we leave the atceet as is from Carroll to Avenue i.e. two
lanes of travel, one lane of parking, and the street varying
from 34 1/4' to 361, In the options or effects cAtegory, the
Staff would just note that since the street does' widen and
narrow somerwhat it does make for subtle changes when
travelling- the length of the street. Also, if the footprint is
built, then' it would preclude us from ultimately using it to a
three lane street if that is needed in the future since there
would be problem with lane widths and our standard sections,
on the section from Avenue G to Avenue d, the street varies in -
width from 36' to 371, it. could be used for two lanes of
travel and one lane of parking, currently, it is used for two
lanes of travel and two lanes of parking. Again, our original,
proposal was for 37' providing for two tanes.of traffic and one f
lane of parking and ultimately could bol expanded to three lanes
j of traffic. The Historic Landmark Commission suggested that
this section should not be widened at ells but the footprint
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should be left as is. They also wanted to look at converting
it to two-way. Planning and Zoning suggested that the
footprint also be left allowing for two lanes of traffic and
one or two lanes of parking. They suggested to Council that
they leave the two lanes of parking and change it if there are
some safety problems. Under the options and effects column, we
have listed a couple of concerns or points that we think are
pertinelnt, If you want to leave the two-way traffic, i e, two
i lanes of traffic with two lanes of parking, we think the street
E is too narrow. Normal standard sections would be 12' lanes for
j two-way traffic plus 81 parking lanes, If that were the case,
the normal street sections should be 911 rather than 36, or
s 371. We think there would be some safety problems if the
`Y street' is not widened as the use continues to grow in this
area. We would also be looking at building a street that is
I substandard according to our current subdivision standards, if
the street is left at 361 or_371, we wound suggest to
two lanes of travel and one lane; of you that `
~ parking be allowed. This
! would again allow for safe movement of traffics and still allow'
parking in the neighborhood.
I Finally,, the section of Oak from Avenue v to Bonnie Brae varies
in width from 38, to 421. It is used as two lanes of traffic
~ and One lane of parking in most areas, The Hiatorio Landmark
commission did not really' talk Very much about this area of the
road, Planning and zoning made comment that where there `ia
multirfamilY areas Or Off; street
parking provided that they
thought going to 371 w01114 be reasonable, We would again
i suggest to you that 371 allowing two lanes of travel and one
lane of parking !would 'eliminate unnecessary width in the
street, still Carry all the traffic and could ultimately' be
used as a three lane kind of section if that was the desire of
the Council in the future,
Finally, on Hickory between Carroll and Welch there
discussion by HLC and P & z. We have not looked at thwas
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particular section in very much detail simply because it was
not in the Street Bond issue, HLC auggested that we look at
making two-lanos of travel and two lanes of parking or convert
it to a two"-waY section, planning & zoning suggested we leavq
it a6 existing configuration with three lanes of travel And one
lane of parking. Again, we are suggesting to you since it was
not in the 1986 Bond Issue, we should leave it as is and look
1 at it again in the transportation study,
in summary, the Staff has some problems with the western
sections of oak if we leave as is and we continue to have
parking on both sides of it. The other sections can bH rebuilt
es is, and we can put two lanes of traffic and one lane of
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parking. it would preclude soma expansion in future years,
Staff has al ays suggested that the 371 foot section be used to
Ptofde a 9t8gt that Would be used just at is now, i.e, i
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q~)e-,Way sections, it Would havo two lanes of travel and one
lane of paikifig, Staff also suggested that if this narrower
section is use'd, no areas of Oak Street would have two lanes of
parkihq. However, if th'ie is the desire of the Council. for two
lanes of parking west of Avenue C, we would suggest a little
bit wider street.
In conclusion, I Would also offer that the 371 sections, or the
narrower sections, can be built without taking any trees.
There are some existing trees along both of these streets that
are in very poor shape` right now, if we disturb the soil near
them, it may cause some further damage to root systems that we
cannot assess at this.. time. However, we believe. we will not
have to remove any trees to build either the 371 sections, or
the narrower sections, or in the area west of Avenue C the 411
sections with the exception of one tree just west of Avenue a
and Oak Street, This tree was discussed at P & Z level P & 7,
understood that we would have to remove the tree because of
some drainage improvements that we will have to make. Although
they understood this, they did not mention it in their minutes
as approving that one removal. But i suggest to you, they did
understand that and were in agreement that that tree would have
to be removed no matter what section was built,
At the P'& z meeting, the commissioners asked the staff to
i notify the effected property owners of the meeting` where the
Council would make these width decisions, We are giving all of
the information to the council now so that they will have a
1 nhanee to review it and ask for any other information. We
would` suggest that we schedule this item for the regular
session on March 7, This will allow us to notify all the
residents if that is the Council's desire.
Both frank and myself will be at the Tuesday meeting, If we
can provide Further information to you or the Council, we would
be happy to try and answer any questions,
Rick Sveh a
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SPECIAL NOTES:
A, Lane-Widths 11' - One Way
12' - Two Way
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4' - Curb $ Gutter not considered in width
B. All radii at intersections to be 20' minimum according to
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C, Traffic design and parking changes to be routed through
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I~ ^ Carroll to Bonnie Brae
(Z) Parking on Hickory to remain on north side Carroll
to Bonnie Brae.
f i E, Tree Considerations / Modifications
1. Liming operations will not be normal It behind curb;
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o and the City Council In accordance with lie updateprocedurei
set out in the Denton Development Plan, The Executive
Director for Planning and Development shall be responsibie
l'or preparing and up sting the intensity e.aiculallons CCor
each of the .moderate and low intensity areas In accordance
wlth the standard methodology and boundaries contained to
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s Ma. Brock stared that staff would not bt chin I ing the
boundaries but would be changing the calculatons,
s Mr, Persaud agreed,
I II r, EngeLb recht steted that the ca lcu iat ions were designed
after the, Plan was, approved. Ho asked if this was just an
administrative detail, Mr. Peraaud said yes.
Ms. Brock stated that the policy should bo changed to read
this appendIx.It to be developed by a committee
k comprlsad of rAtresontatlyes .
DECISION, Ms. clock moved to recommend approval of tho
poT~~Ii amended, Seconded by Mr. Glasscock and y
unanimously carried (7.0),
F. Consider making a recomnendatloh on Article 17, Signs, of
Appendix B, Zoning of the Code of ordinances, I L' l
SrAPP itopgTi As. Carson "stated that the Government
Relations Committde has re Quested gore time to consider the
chanties and submit those chsngen for the Planntug and toning
f i meeting on December 14th.
Ms. Brock: Asked Ma}Ca rsoii;u roviow the schedule of. the
■oratorlu■, Ns. Cprlon said that the Clly,°;COUnC#1'nas
exteoded,the moratorium until P bruar 21 1989, '.Yhe
talirettent'for intending the or'dlne"s is tthat eheoPlinning
and Zen[ng Commission make's reeo%A6A alto h",to tht City
1 Council and than the Council would held p ublle hea'rl'ng,an
the issue and make's de4issles, She"said chit the ppTannina
and Ten#nt Commission '111; have only one meetinttlh necettear
f I and the City COU4611 would be aeetinj on the 1rd,'and 19th df
II January did the 7th and list of Pebary. the City Council
would need an additional work session For oonstderatdon
` before A +lotton would be made and the Courlel has previously
if I requested iha this type of item not be scheduled for a
' special aalle meeting,
I Ms, Carson continued that A chert in the Cebmissloners back
f up showed'the sign requirements In other cities.
Ms. Brock'Asked when was the lest possible dits to have the
draft sign ordinance brou ht to the Commission, Ms, Catson
atstad the first Meeting !n January in order for staff to
advdrtlse fifteen days prior to the City Council public
hearing, )
G, Consider raking a recommeadotlon alt an amendment to the
Benton W616 Ant Plan to !dd a nose to the thoroughfare i
Plan in relation to bakAlckory St rtet,
'stltsd that In the Commissioners'
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mendat#ens that were made tty the Historic Landmark.
Commission,
Mr. Robbins satd that at, the last Nistorie Landmark
Commission meeting, staff had expressed concerns and after
discussion the Historic Landmark Commission made the fol
lowing, recommendationsl
1) Oak Street between Rennie bese and Cartoll Boulevard
should not be wldvf than allowing for two travel lanes
pplus omnstreet parking in selected areas and/or bike
lanes in selected areas.
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it Hickory_$treet froA Carroll Boulevard t1ptIetco Street
should be no wider -rhAn a llowingg throe travel lanes
and on•streor Parkin 4 on one side of 111ckory Street
and/or bike lanes, nlckory Street from Wolch to
Bonnie Brae should be,no.wider thin allowing two
travel lanes and orrstreet parking and+or bike lanes,
` ttr. Robbins stated that the 1{idkory Street request could not
i to supported by staff at this time,
3) in addition to the travel lanes, parking that is
allowed on both sides of Ask and 1{lakory Street;
k 'should be allowed to remain on both'stdes, except as
followsk a) where multi family dovelopment;in eycess
of 10 unit's per acre or non-residential development' {
exists, On•street parking day be eliminated on the
side of the street With such a Multi-familY Or
non-resldbntlal area, b) Between Jagoe and.Wqaut G',
parking on the north side of Oak Street slay be removed
R after a finding by the City Countll that such would be
in the interest of 'safe end efficient traffic flow,
K5 On•stroot parking on the south side, of this. section of
Oak should not be eliminated unless the Council finds
that placing A bike Lane In this section ds in the
pub(tc interest by:eiaxImiaing the transportation
capabllttles of existing streets,
Mr. Svehla said that included In, the back-up was a letter
j frost the gngiAoarlll Department re'Ardint the;0ek and
i Hickory street ppro) ct, He said that whit Is stated in the
j I policy silteeeni•regardlny two travel lanes would not be a
problee With BnRtneerlnq, The possible pretiles may be in
the future, NO said that he felt the 31 foot vtesLi the _3S
foot wadtb,of the road would be acceptable, Thers:are sole
coneerni w+ th tivenue C to Avenue ,0 And I!a;ina the street
the satto wtdtha,
j Mr, OrIJO re,cht:asked what the current minimum standards are
rop residehliai streets, Mr. Svehla stated that he believed
It was 40 ftlet,:
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Mt gn!elbre< t asked if gn inoerln
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st Ne t At the streets. Mr, Svehla stated halt It the roads
were in good phopb Ind the drainage requtrem)rits alet the
standards, rec'ohstruetlng the stroets MY sot be nbce3sary,
he added that the bond issue was to rebuild oak and Hickory
Streets and not side streets that tie Into Oak and Hickory
Street,
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s,iandords would be roolrod to be !sat. The stands!d of the
t re of construction or today,$ standards: Me. Sveh~a said
It would hA4 to meet wlth.todiyls standards,
r Ns. Brock asked if the sldewalks.would be teplaced, '
%ir, SYah'lA said the funds would be lplled, fitit to the
rbconstruttlon of the roads,and if any funds are left over,
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34ey would be used for the„Aidewolks,
Oeorge $tuiet, 2003 M.. Oak Oenia, P pIdeticp one !seat Oak
Property.-0wners Associetlon; elated ~ at the siaoclation was
in support of the misty to shave no ctisA$ec for Nbst Oak ;
from Ja pe to 0 n6 t, Brie, 111 said that'tedeslghlhg the
I street it the opposite idov of the property owns n , By
widening the street the speed liiiit would be Increased and
so would problems with ttaffsc ;bheratlon,
M3, Brock. asked Mr. Stuart If he hAd any documentation
stating that there wawld bbe an Increase of iDs6ding If the
!treat was wldened, ltt,'3tusrt'said na but because the I
street !s close to the c011ege he assumed thorn Would be,
1 Mr, Cochran stated that he via in support of the exlrting
p footprint but also felt it would altar the speed of the
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drivers on the road, Ile $aid that he is concerned with
safety if the speed Is Increased, He added that he would
urgn the CommI$S loners to look at West Oak as . ~ielghburhuoJ
and not as a corridor,
Afse
s,ed Brock stated that she did see an advantage to slower
ps,
Mr, fngelbrecht said that he had a problem with dual side
parking on a street that Is narrow, =He said that he doisnrt
understand why it Is necessaryy to build a streot wlth pIrk
{e Ing on both sldes, Ile said the only advantage would be'to
slow down the speed of drivers,
Ms: Kiker stated that Mr. Stuart made reference to speeding
and she felt it would not make a difference but agreed that
some consistency should be shown with both streets, She
added that she felt parking should be on only one side of
the street,
Ms. Brock stated that consistency was hard to maintain with
l a school in the area,
Mr. Svehla commented that one tree on Avenue 0 would have to t
p be removed,
1 Mt, Cochran stated that consistency is not In parking but In '
i whether the street should be one way to two ways,.
f Bixle Stevenson, 191ti W. Oak, stated that the speed Is bad
now and she felt that If the speed limit was lowered to 20
mph it,wouid help, $he Bald that she wonted to keep thA'
exlsting fnpptprint, Ms, Stevenson added that the exit for
Oak Street from J+33 doe's not lead to Oak'Street;,
I Ms, Kiker asked'If the city could have lanes from I'ss lead
I EEE to Oak when exited frc■'I-3$ and'lines 'that wouId'aIso lead
r I to Hickory Street when exited. Mr, Svehla soid'*at, a sign
on 1•3s states that the Oik Street exit will take you
j downtown, ,
1 Ms, brook Nov" to rdeommoepd approyal to the City COuncPI
` that the polity statement he'atFached to the Thoroughfare
r i Plan. Metien died for lack of a second,
A woman from the audience stated that she has lived In
Denton for 70 years and feels there should be two Nay
traffic all the way theou Ill en Oak and HIC ory Streoty,
"Ms, Brock stated that possibly In the future the Commission
could consider It,
I Mr. Halt `stoted that in order to widen Oak Street0'between
E Miller Road and,gonnie trio, the trees would have to
stay
I snd the City would have to widen the south side of Oak
Street,
Mr, Svehla stated that It was a.possibillty t it would
Kaye to be taken to City COAACIi.
„ 4f. Holm asked that if the Uerktisslon voted on the last
notion, ahe If`Cl(t Cdugdli:Would sitii sake the final
dscioloa, Mr, Robbins sold yeej
Mr. Holt stated that Hickory S(reat did Ira botherhlm, It
was Oak Street being three to four fetrt off a front yard
that would change te looks of the area.
Mr, Sao lbrecht coved to tecomreod approval of the policy
statetlbnt with a change In Its* 03 to read:
3) In addition to the travel ltines, parking on Oak and
Hickory stews should be allowed on one Side.
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There was a conflict in the audience and people ppresent
statod that they were U,vlted to come and gtve their input
but felt the Comat9 Ion was not listening to their vetw-
points.
M$, Brock stated that she reouested that those who lived in
the area be present in order for the Comrtksslon to receive
c information frost those that livedto the area, She apol
# oglzed for givingg the wrong ]apression, but said that the
Comaisston needed to decide what was best for the City, as a
whole, as well,
Mr, Holt stated that he was worried about the extension on
the southside, He said he would rather keep the area "as
ts'I with parking on one blda than both sides with the road
extended on the south side,
Ms, Brock stated that If the Commission made a recommenda-
tion to the City Council to have pDarkingg on on; side of the
f street there would be parking problems in the future,
Mr, Glasscock stated that he felt parking would ba`better on
one side of the street, He sold that he was in favor of the
motion on the floor,
f4/ Hr, Holt withdrew his seeond to the notion to recookond
fl acceptance of the policy statement with the correction in
(tort I$.
Me, Glasscock seconded Mr, gngelbrechtli motion with the
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Ms, Brock stated that she felt parking on both sides would
stow down traffic and would encourage walking,
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Mr, Kamolin asked if the C6,00isslon could recommend parking
on one side for certain hours only, Mr, Robbins said yes,
{ E though the city council would make the final decision,
1 Chile called a vote to the retloq and,the atntton failed
0.4), Ns, Morgan, Mr, Holt, Ms, !rock, and Mr. Kaman
i voted no.
! Mr, Sveftla stored that is would go to city Council without a
I recommendation from the Cottdission if needed,
f = Ms, Brock oov6d to reeoomend approval of the policy state-
sent as origlnilly stated and to, haVe it attached to the
?horouehfare Plen, Seconded by Igs, Morgan mad station
1 i carriedd ((6.1}, Mr, Btigelbrecht Votad no,
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Meeting adjourned $12t p.m.
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the staff has also provided the Commission with infor.
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Ation in -ConJunction with an earlier 40ning request,
The
chatrresulted lniantevecuatton0to was a fire at one plant
RbBUTTAUi Mr, Jester Jr, stated Safet glean has not had
an9 lp ills and there were no employees that were coil-
plalning of breathing problems. He said that they have
not stated whether they would Condemn the water well or
not,
Chair declared public hearing closed,
I OECISIONi- Mr, Glasscock stated that he understood that
ff tFO expansion would be for just a warehouse and no
i chemicals would Of recycled in the new portion,
withutnts'Conditlondstatedcby~staff. Secondedtby8.020
I Mr, Engelbrecht and unanimously carried (6.0) for
approval
Iv, Consider making a recommendation on Article 17, Signs, of
Appendix b, Zonins, of the rode of Ordinances.
Mr. Holt
oordinancemunoved
meeting. Seconded by
No. Kiker and unanimously.carried (6.0),
V. Consider an amendment to the Denton Development Plan to qdd A
note on the Thoroughfare Plan about the widths and parkimg on
Oak and Hickory Streets',
J StAPP KiPOATi Mr, Robbins stated that the langua a in the
I r mono t at was on the Corrissloaerts desks were di ferent from
what they received in their packets, Ne stated that, on the
new @6401 deleted words were crossad ou tand additional words
were underlined,`
i Mr. Robbins stated that At the time that the packets were
pasiod'out to the Coamissioner's, he was not ware of the
throe travel lanes of traffic on, art of Hitckory Street. .lie
said that was the most substantial Change from the document
that was in the Commissioner's packets,
Mr, Hobbies sold that staff was eacomeonding approval oe the
arondaent to protect the historic district along Oak and
Hickory Streets as wail as other homes outside the district,
Mr. Clark added that the area was not affected by the CAP
project,
Mr. Robbins stated that to clarity Mr, Clark's $tAtoient, the
area between Welch Street and south Carroll Boulevard It not
part of the construction activity An the City's CAP project,
He said that it was in the area that the 'policy would apply.
The ppolicy would apply to Hickory and Oak Streets between
Bonnie Arab And Carroll Boulevard,
Mr, Holt asked if this area of the stroot would not be paved,
Mr, Clark maid shot the only part affected by the CAP pro-
CarroilpBoulevard &adaWelch districtj to sirtet et, berueen
Carroll Boulevard and Welch Street is not Affected,
At, Glasscock asked if there vas parking on both sides of Oak
Street, Mr, Clark said that it varies with the location,
Mr, Holt asked what wider thin the footprint was,
footprints wouldebetwiderfwhereplabeleds"widereathanothe
existing footprint to accommodate what was said at An earlier
meeting,
Mr, Holt stated that the' Commission's recommendation was to
keep the existing footprint,
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Mr, Robbins said chat there would be a problem if, bunt
aceordin,to the policy, there are IlablllOl M it, asst
dated wgi build ng a substandard street to Allow,on•street
parking and the two travel lanes, He sold that staff would
~a r thecommend to do something that which the city may have
nosomt e liability,
Mr Holt asked if there was a lie b
Mr, Robbins said no did not thlnksoitY if nothing was done,
S Ms, Kiker stated that maybe the commission should table the
request or maKe a motion since the conversation was going in i
circles,
Mr, Holt asked if the Commission could postpone the discus.
"on until the next ■eetin
g. the Commission agreed,
V1, Director Report,
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Greg Rich, Paul Unticker Company, $700 Steamons Dallas,
stated that the purppose of the rezoning is to maintain the
integrity of the no ghborkood so that small lots will not
be located across from large lots,
Chair declared public hearing closed,
Ms. Brock stated that sometimes people who aren't involved
in develoFmeet Joni realize that there are opportunities
to actually improve developments and make them less dense,
DEG151GN; Mr! Glasscock moved to recommend approval of
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IV. Considerations
A. Consider a plan to reuove protected trees olonq hickory
and Oak streets In conjunction with street irpeovements.
STAPP RBP0 Td Atr, Svehla stated that.a neighborhood meet-
Ing was hold to receive in ut and uldohce. There number of pp Y were a
Tree, Preservation OrdinaAceerequires that tthehCommissionThe
consider any trees that will be affected by C1P projects,
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vouldewill nersetoibenremoved andrpotot ssiblycshotherbth
Y affected, Look ing^at Oak Street.froe a
traffic standpoint, ultimately; three iines Of be needed. This is consistent with the veotsrienfeiPPiswnill 1
i however, the people who live on Oak StreAeet do not want it
changed. Staff recommends that Oak Street be vld6nbd to e
37 foot section with two lines for one way traffic and two
Way traffic west of Avenue C, ; The.al Wnstive is to leave
ff the street in its existingY config!uration as espoused bby the
{ neighbors, A'few trees 41Qhc still he effected by the,
j i Improvements anyway.
Ms. Brock asked if'a new curb and gutter will be installed,
li ) kr', Sv6Ala said yes, There are drainage problems and new
piopdeitwill bAsnmucharepairswork as poi lble awillnbe done
working 'around the trees,
NS, Brock asked how the dtainasa Improvements will be
effected if the street retains it present configuration
of varying,width$,
Mr, Svehla said that the,job would not be sailer if the
jjj street widths are not chang9ed. Normally lateral tovements
are not mupph of a problem but it Will be more difficult to r
match up with the driVewaya.
Ms, Brock stated-that there hr.s boon a lot of discussion
about the ultimate plans for Oak street.
Mr. Svehla said that the existing widths will be too narrow
In places to create the ultimate cuplets,
Ms. Brock asked what would be the maximum load for Oak and
Hickory Streets under the transportation plan.
Mr, Svehla said that.it is hard to determine. They are
now used as main routes fn and out of rho University of,
North Texas, There Is no way to predict: what load they
will actually be carryin in a few years but the University
expects to grow and development is expected at the west and
Hickorysasethe main routep to tthisndevelopshows Oak ment area and
of
1.3$ and to the University.
Ms. Brock asked what the streets could potentially cam if
designed as a cuplet,
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Mr, Svehla stated that two lanes can carry 22,000 to 24,000
vehicles, three lanes can carry 24,000 to 34,000. The
oneway cuplets are more efficient,
c' Mr Holt asked the goal of the presentation to the
Commission,
Mr, Svehla stated that the tree preservation ordinance
states that the Commission' must determine whether or not
4 protected' trees are being unnecessarily removed in
.~d conjunction with CIF projects,
Mr, Holt asked what kind of trees are proposed for removal,
Mr, Svehla said at Ieact three oak trees. Two of which are
/ in the historic district.
II Mr. Holt stated that if a 37 foot street section is
approved, the possibility is opened for three lanes of
traffic one-way. He asked where people would park,
Mr, Svehla stated-that, no one has'suggested changing the
trafflc pattern, The City would have the option of,doing
{ so in later years .;lf desired, He said that the Historic
Landmark Commission and the City Council will also be
considering this request,
Ms, Brock stated that this is the third meeting cn the
t C Issue that she has attended, The ftrlt was a wotk less ton
with the Council when the ,37 feet were agreed upon. The
second was the meeting with the neighborhoori; She sold
that at tha last Couhcll sooting; it was'luggested that'd
transportation d9mmittee be forced, This project is,yevy
much a tronsportstiotf issue, mnf;dilmeet at the UAtvoeslty
of North Texas is growing; This riy'iteon thae larger
streets are Wedded, Hs, 9rock stated that she is going to
recommend that staff be directed to prepare a poi ey to be
attached to the Th'6foughfare P101 stating that.00 and'
1 Hickory retain the e,isti,, traffic'pitterh and any changes
would require'public hearing9s, The neighborhood deeds this
protection. The historic district is'new and no pocking
with high-speed traffic Would.be a,detrlment, She said
that she Is also concerned about the Unlvirslty 664Ait
soretlme in the near future the cit needs t6 work with the
University offioisls,abou4 acoess`; bike paths, the safety
of 4tudents, et< she iaid that 'she does not think that
havtng'0ik end Hickory as major thoroughfares is nJCellary
to the devtlopment of the high intensity area west•of,town,
Oe6rgs Stewart, 2003 M. Oak, stated that he is president of
the propperty owners association between Avenue C and Bonnie
arse, He said that he agrees with ke, Brock and endorses
her proposal.
Mike Cochran, 409 M, Oak, stated that he *Aso agreed with
Ms, arock's ititaments.,Ad stated that the issue is bigger
thin the trees but he lppreclat#f,the staff's:eonee h for
tree preservati6n, He bald'th4t a.boule4erd throng the
historic; distrlct Is not food for Denton ;even th6urh 1t may
mike sense to traffic englhearing. , He laid that 't e Nfstor-
ic Landmark Commission voted to oppdse the W dehing of Oak
Street end recommends that Oak and Hickory have two way
traffic, This rebommendation should be seriously 'consid-
Bred. This coat would not be great and would preserve the
neigahborhood, He urged that Oak Street at least remain as
It is, widening the street to 37 feet would be 'a disaster
because it would become too easy to make the street three
lanes one way. The residents would have no sound, arguments
against it other than emotlona°, reasons,
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Murray Ricks, 705 W. Oak-, stated that he lived on Stanley
WaseUpgraded on Stanley anda ThomasStreets, pipe dwasnput in
the middle of the Street and curb and gutter was removed as
needed. The home owners lawns and trees were undisturbed.
The existing footprint of the street was left in tact.
Mr. Ricks suggested doing this typo of improvement on Oak
i> Street ae an alternative to the current proposst. Drop
inlets 'could be Installed as necessary but the main pipes
could be down the center of the road.
1 Mr. Svehla stated that the bond issue `voted an by the
cititen4 requires that Oak Street be rebuilt. 80 - 90
percent of Oak Street is in poor condition. it may be
possible to save some of the curb but the street is buckled
and nteds to be rebuilt. Mr, Svehla stated that he would
not feel comfortable recommending that the street only be
repaved. If the curbs are in good enough shape, the City
ill leave them in place. The Maforlty of the Garbs are in
i k dA
d shape and will need to be rep aced to facilitate better
rainage.
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Ms, Brock stated that If Oak Street is left At Its existing
width, It will have to be down graded to a collector street
on the thgroughfare plnn.
Mr. Svehla stated that when a transportation committee is
appointed", that issued could be considered.
+ f Joyce Palaer, 1905 W, OiIC toted that she Is disturbed
that,the`City is!not"tak;il4.ths'residentg' who live on the
street into accoVnt, INyito'pf.n` ice cap tit
oreat
will seriougly, effect the quality of 1ife.y SheOsaiNthAc
lnlgotlIty Drive and Cagle are b'ettur suited for carr,+tng
ar a traffic"lodds, Extra traff c on Oak Street would
effect all the tesidents'of the'h~atoric district and the
E surrounding neighborhood 'adversely.
Pate ountpr, 225 Jsgoe, stated that his'farily is from
GAinesVllio lhich has a historic distrlct, 4, strict
is do attraction to people and enhonees the city for the
,Ii Id nts, It`attracto business as uell. The Denton
historit,distvict is smkllor than aoinesvillels Ace if a
fxsekay is ruA through it, It mil be worthless.",
Donhin's alrport and the surrounding area are dev""cloyyed,
goople'w111 not hop bff 4he lames And rush down Hickory
Street ta'g44 to the Min •Mall, The alstorie district is
soaerhkA3 of value and ohauld be preserved for at least
another docade.
Ms. Horgan stated that she is in favor of preserving"the
historic district as is, except for necessary repslrst
Mr. Svehls stated that portions"of Oak And Hickoty Streets
ore 4$ fast wide, He Asked If the commission would like
these sections narrowed down to 37 feet at left to the
o existing width, 11 foot would still leave room for a
F parking lane, He said that Fry 8trest will only be rebutle
F between Oak and hickory Streets,'
DECISI0 1 Mr, Holt roved that no trees be removed from oak
an c ory Streets,
Mr, Olasscoek said that there are some dead trees in the
rIQht~of•way 0 at should be removed. He asked if the
sldewalks will be redone.
Mr, Svehla said yet and that the dead trees would be
8E removed, He pointed out that there Ars few llvin trees
4 existimay be ng footprint ofbthehstreet oIt toll owed. lit do ends
on the root:systsats of the trees, Staff will consult with
John Cooper, the County Agriculture Extension Officer,
about the trees,
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Mr. Kamman and unanimously carried
ti
s Motion was seconded by
(6 0) policy statement that
o more than two lanes of traffll.
µs. Brock niayed that staff PrBpaattetn to remain asait so
savs Oak Siteewith theatraff P area, This poll,
plus parkin Si Will be removed inany in the Denton
and no parking would be attached tseconded byuMrEekOi~land unanimously
1:t) pment plan.
cried (6.0)' reliminarY rePlat of Lots l 23
B, Make a recommendation on p 43 to Lots 42R 51R, Block A,
co Lots lR L6R of To Lots Township ropier
The Woodlands of reilminary
STAFF NIPORT; Ms. Evans stated that the 43 to Lodone2R~S1R,
to Lots tR 16R and Lots d2ls being
0r" ot-s Woodlands of TownshtP 11,
block A
The I case hearandasingieifarliy
)ni 11 conSunctloTh+j!itprophetY isnzoned PO.6
evening ,ment is anticipated, of the
S roval
1 Mr. Kamman roved to recommend app dLts l
DECISION' dskofn Lots
ropier of Lots 1-23 the L+Yfoo8lan
Pra-giTnary plat k, Block A+ Thenlrously carried (6.0~
42.43 to Lots Ms. Morgan and
11, 4ec0nded by for downzoning of
where re
Make a recommendation On pro Me, ed fee
nonresidential zoning districtsidential uses
j exist.,
rated that she had 1nEoCred the
R>![OkT, MsEvans 9 that the City Prohoesed a ,
STAFF in
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t orr ss on a few meetings ago land uses Under that
System some areas,
sole to initiate downzaning
Cor+eission needs to look existing i$ her are'eurtently tonedlaw, resiiddental intensity s ttrtyuctures t"61 In nonresl-
i l res
dotla4 ive %on will not be allowed to rebuild if over t
cuirolatlve zonitsng consider for
he structure is destroyed and they sidercannot
percent or, The Corm/ scion might want to 39d0.
ions. she current fees of the acres,
do addit
{ reduction of one•hean of no fee at all or to-have no,fee 100 five raccreions are°tonhave,no er nonrcur oil at ive
ttegt i as
4or downronin praPerttee. C
hal zh ceees fr .os one rest ed h6tental6if pO~ltf
district aen aIndounzopint sore other cE°o rat are S r recormenda;the optlgn are
that ptoPe
to another. Moij s Evans stated that there yyl
k current ;fees, a currentlya onicistin
owners f r lame u 0 isiarom 5outhrid,eettng,' Th t fw -
uses present it the t property is deed rraloretstricted fo
ent build-
ses. She efEertthe eui re/non•c'+rnt bui
and the Prop 1969 to prey
two-family all
el units i n s non•residentiel districts h
p wit
ordinance becomes edtiv Janus
d ry was a nobler t
re be ,It
Th se there dlstri
I sidenti cau
l
Ing The new roved
The ordinance warultiticipt units in lndus
rucsurhood to wa could
eople building
' Tsld Res were SevuMnerta aCed and the lnfrnst
Pp l residents of the neighbo
lit the fees,
tegetha: and SP
not t4qu6st
bring would aolve the problem of
Mr. bolt asked it downzontn4
the eople tieing able co odd on or rebuild Sf necessary,
Ms, bvane said Yes. o through the
Mr, Holt asked if the peoPy° EvvnshsoidtYs ,
regular zoning ProceSS' NN
306 Ho11Y Htll, stated that the development
` the city has now
fired Vaughan, roved 18 yest$ ago,
ha
he resides in was apP the rp erty.that aYadutoaCorrect
I placed restrictions on Rd notlne *party is nuw
residents,' The residents 9904
somethingg that is not their Fault:
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December 12, 1988 -
The regular meeting of the Historic Landmark Commission was
held on Monday, December 12, 1988 at 4#00 p.mr, in the Civii
Defense Room of the Municipal Building, Denton, Texas.
t Present; William Barker, Mike Cochran, Bullitt Lowry, Tom
Miller,and Janet Shelton
Absent: Judith Abbott, Catherine Conrady, Gaylen Fickey,
Richard Hayes, and William Hansbury
Present from Stafft Frank Robbins, Executive Director for
Planning and Development; Elizabeth Evans, Planning
I Administrator; Joe Morris, Assistant City Attorney;
and Olivia Carson, Secretary
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Mr, Miller suggested that staff check on the boundaries
of the East Denton neighborhood to be sure the minutes
are accurate.
Mr. Lowry stated that the motion on page 6, paragraph 12
f is worded awkwardly. He said the motion should read "Mr.
Lowy moved to recommend Mr. Hayyes's suggestion that hale
Street not be widened, Similarly, Hickory should not be
E widened between Carroll and Welch and Hickory should be
changed to no more than two travel lanes and two
on-street parking lanes."
Ms. Shelton stated that pa a 7, paragraph 2 says thAt she
left the meeting. She sold that she did not leave and ;
participated in the vote supporting the Jones Farm
concept making the vote (7-0) instead of (6-0) in
paragraph 5, page 7. f
Mrs- Robbins stated that he would get a copy of the
recommendation to Planning and Zoning that was based on
Mr.`Lowry's notion.
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The Commission 'decided to proceed with another Item as
people were present to discuss it and come back to the
discussion on the recommendation later in the meeting
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After discussing the possible renaming of pockrus Road,
the Commission agreed to resume their discussion on the
Oak/Hickory Street recommendation and minutes. ,4r,
Ro5bins presented them with a copy of the recommendation
that staff presented to the planning and Zoning
Commission based on their motion at th6 November 14, 1988
meeting,
Mr, Lowry `stared that item 1 of the recommendation was
accurate but item 2 could be phrt.sed to more accurately
c reflect the desires of the Historic Landmark Commission.
He said that item 2 of the recommendation should read as
- - follows:
F Hickory Street from Carroll Boulevard to Welch Street
should not be widened, It should be changed to allow
two travel lanes and on-street parking on both sides
I of Hickory Street or bike lanes from Carroll to
E Welch, Hickory Street from Welch to Bonnie Brae
should be no wider than all two travel lanes and
on-street parking or bike lanes, JJ
Mr, Lowry said that the Commission's intent is to
! discourage traffic on these streets,
f I Mr. Cochran stated that according to Jerry Clark, the
City Engineer, making traffic two-way will not affect the
I amount of traffic on the streets, but it will have an
impact on the intersection at Carroll Blvd.
Mr. Miller said ,`that two-way traffic seems to go slower
than one-way traffic;_
lira Robbins stated that staff has interpreted the motion
thTt the Commission made on Making Oak and Hickory
two-way traffic as a recommendation that the possibility
of two-way traffic on those streets be studied. Staff
will lot the Council.`know that the Commission wants tho
idea. studied. A consultant will probably be hired to do
the study but not until after the ppolicy for the streets
has been adopted and a decision made on the
reconstruction of the 'streets.
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i Mr. Morris arrived at the meeting.
Mr, Lowry stated that he would like the way he reworded
f the staff recommendation to the PIainning and Zoning
{ Commission to, be substituted as the wording for the
potion on page ?6, Psrsotsph 124 ' He moved acceptance of
the minutes of the regular Metting ofnNovaAd ember 14, unanimously
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Ms. Ross pointed out that the lot at 1122 East sycamore is in
the flood plain. Federal funds for the renovation of the
house would not be available unless it is moved. The lot is
also slated to become part of a new park.
Mr. Ellison said that demolition could be delayed on the house.
Mss Evans stated that someone could buy the house privately at
a foreclosure sale.
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Ms. Moore stated that the Parks Department is interested in
the lot itself
Mr, Ellison stated that the citizens need to be informed that
the demolition will at least be delayed. They may want to
i help.
Ms. Shelton said that there are other older houses in the area.
Ms, Moore said that the vacant houses have vagrants living n
them. They often start fires in the winter and the neighbors
I are concerned,
j Mr, Miller moved that the Commission look ►t the 10 houses
slated for demolition prior to the next meeting, Seconded by
Mr, Lowry and unanimously carried (9-0),
Mr, Lowry asked that the chairman be sent a list of the
buildings and informed of the motion.
Ms, Ross, Mr, Doyle, Mr. Ellison, and Ms. Moore left the meeting,
Il' Discuss and consider the Oak and Hickory Street Project,
I G Mr, Hayes stated that he is concerned about lfmitinq on-street
parking for Multi-family developmdats, That is where it is
probably most needed, . He also said that Hickory Street from
Carroll boulevard to Welch Street should not be widened, No
more than two lanes of traffic and two lakes of on-street
j pparkiAj should be allowed, He said that Oak Street should not
be widened at all,
Mr, Hayes left the meeting,
The Commission considered plans for rebuilding oak Street,
Ms, Evans asked -if the residents want parking om both sides of
the street, The issue was not addressc~ at the neighborhood
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meetin Ms, Abbott said that she would like to see two lanes
of tra fie and one parking lsne,
Mr, Lowry asked why the site of the lanes have increased from
the previous ppropposal, Mr. Clark stated that the memo in the
Cogel$%ion's bacfc-up was prepared by someone also,
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Ms. Evans Mated that 12 feet is the ideal size for a travel
lane.
Mr,~Barker stated that the footprint of oak Street should not
be changed.
Mr. Clark stated that the traffic movements on Oak Street have
been watched. Changing the curbs will not allow someone to go
faster, but will hopefully prevent some accidents. A 12 foot
l lane Includes a foot and one-half of gutter, People don't
drive in the*. They will park in thew,
Mr. Barker asked the speed limit on Oak Street. Mr. Clark
said 30 riles per hour.
Mr. Barker said that there are no speed limit signs. {
Mr. Lowry stated that heis concerned about changing the .
connection betvaen the Historic District and the rest of the +
rojecto He said that Oak Street should not be widened
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between Carroll and Donnie Orae,
Ms, Abbott stated that guttering is needed along oak near
I, Avenue G.
Mr. Lowry moved to recommend that Oak Street should not be
widened between Bonnie Stae and Carroll except for guttering
at the intersection with Avenue G. Motion died for lack of
second
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Mr. Clark stated that the plan for Oak Street through the
Historic District nin fof the interections tohiieeroveith
widede g ter-
jog and s small e
in
turning radius. The hump will be taken out of the
section at Mounts Street No trees will be removed. The
sidewalks will not be upl
Mr, Lowry stated that he does not want traffic to go any
faster through the area.
Mr. Clark said that the drive is unsafe if a car stops in
front of the one, The turning radii are not a major
but a City would like to widen them to a common,
problem but another
standard site*
` Mr, Lowry moved to recommend Mr. Hbetweeasuhtrolioindhatlak
street not be widened nor: Hickory
and that would be changed to no more than two travel lines and
1 two on•street parkin lanes, seconded by ms, ton and
ultanimously carried 11-0)*
Mr, Clark stated bthat ecause between ofltheabondaelaction,l
not be redone r
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Mr. Barker emphasized that the new curb radii were not to be
approved.
Ms. Shelton a.nd Mr. Clark left the meeting.
Mr. Miller stated that traffic people naturally have the urge
} to widen lanes,
Mr. Lowry clarified that curb, excavation would be over the
current footprint and the motion was meant to retain the
f current width, He said that the motion was meant for the
entirety of Oak Street.
1V, Consider recommending support for the Jones farm concept.
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Mr, Lowry stated that there will be a tour of the Jones Farm
on November 30, 1988, Mr, Cochran can be contacted for more
details, Senator Glossgow has 'come out in favor of Jones
farm, -A motion of support from the Commission would be
i help:ul, The Jones Farm is located within the Lake Ray
Roberts area, It is a working farm on a historkal and
arr,heolo icaily significant sits, The Texas Department of i
Parks and NlildiiEe.;wants. to fund a living farm. This Is one
of the sites being considered, ;Numerous groups are inter
! ested'in the project, He moved that the Commission support
the concept and recommend -pursuin itfurther. Seconded by
Mr, Milder and unanimously carrie (6-0).
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Ms'. Evans stated that a petition has been received to change
the name of Pockrus Road. She asked the Commission is they
would Tike to have a special meeting to consider additional
agenda items.
Mr. Lowry suggested beginning the December meeting at an
earlier time.
The Commission agreed *a the suggestion, Mt. Evans said that
she would send a notice asking the Commissioners to arrange
their schedule so that 'Attendance would be possible,
Meeting adjourned at 6120.
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of Ientou Texas was neld un Septem
We civil Getense Room of ber 12 19W at Sruu p.nr, In
L the Municipal bullalr.:
Presents Judith Aobott }
;r , Will lam Barker, Mik Cochran,
Catherine wry-1'y
8ull , 0aylen flckey, Richard hayBull'" Lowry, Tor Miller, and Janet Shelton
{ Absents Nilllam Hansoury
Joe from staff: Ellxabetn Eyans, Planning Administrator;
Morris, Assistant _ City Attorney; Jerry ClarK,
f City 6ngineeri and Olivia Carson, Secretary
i Chairman Mike Cochran called the meeting to order,
b 1, New business
+ onslderation of proposal to widen Oak and Hickory streets
ano reroVe protected:.. trees
Mr. Clark stated that are CityY is still In the data gQathering
stage.' Preliminary drawings havd been done and the City,
Council has expressed its approval, The jj
Oak Street between Carroll-and Bonnie braeruHlckor%,Sttoot
between kelch and Bonnie Erne, and Pry Street botween-0ik
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and scripeure The kh lneerln Department is aware of the
Historic District There are i 1ot,of lasgos,in,relation to
II trees,
The E>lyinsoring Oepartredt Is plannlnji for the ,least
effect on the'envlronrent, The City Counoll supports?wlden-
In oak Street to S7 feet with'an ll foot, trave!
eight foot parkin Ionic' Thecexisting' canFipufatlon'Will no
be changed. The glow of traffde.will ContlAUe in the same t'
way as currently. if the street is ride 'a y,nfrroWet;,then It
would be hard1to travel through, The Corrlssion~
are welcome, Aod ;in# drasilugs are available forsrevgeCelsjyons
the Bntlneerlns Department. kidening the street to ;37 feet
will rsquire'the removal of some trees but the street will be
weaved wherever possible,
Mr. Miller asked the objective of the widening,
Mr. Clark said that the streets have deteriorated and were
approved in a bond election to be upgraded,
Mr. Miller asked why Oak Is being widened,
Mr. Clark said that it 1s on Inconsistent width and widening
it will give the City the option of raking It three lane in
the future,
Mr, Lowry asked if there is a possibility of Making Oak and
Hickoryy two-way in order to discourage traffic, He asked
about le tin Bagle, University, and Scripture/Congress carry
the traffic goads,
Hr. Clark said that he is willing to consider the possibility,
There would be the sere need to widen Scripture.
Hr, Hayes asked when the street `study was done.,
Hr, Clark sold that street studies are in on-goeng pproce s,
The staff rates the streets for the aitount of deter 3oratgon,
He said that an original thoroughfare study was done in 1981, h
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Tne Land Use Planning Committee changad the Thoroughfare Plan
in 1986, This project is consistent with the approved plan
by the LUPC.
Mr. Cochran asked the cost of repaving.
s Mr, Clark said SS•s per square foot $15 if curbs and gutters
t are Included. It also Costs a lot to remove the old street,
The bond election called for the streets to be rebuilt'
Mr, Haye'j stated that he was a Herber of the LUPC and he
r' always understood that Oak and Hickory were to remain In
their present condition.
t Ms. Abbott asked if fry would be widened.
Mr. Clark said no,
Ms. Shelton asked if there are plans to widen Bonnie Brae.
Mr. Clark said yes.
Mr, fickey asked if the traffic on University has decreased
In the last few years,
Mr. Clark said that it has Increased.
Mr. fIckey asked if the lights will eventually be
synchronized.
Mri Clark said yes. It is a complicated project and is-
be ng'computerized.
i Hr. Cochran said that synchronizing the lighia`on University
i should help take traffic off Oak Street. He asked if there
j i has been aq indication of a need to go to tisCee one-way
!f lanes on 004 and Hickory streets.
Mr, Clark 1~aid no,; ?he new pavement willIla,st'2025 years.
The Comaissioa is wel'dame to look at the preliminary drawings,
{ There will be a disousslon of the project at the Planning and
Zoning Commission meeting on September 14, 1968.
Mr. Batker asked if the Council had to approve the project.
Mr. Cochran stated that the Council has Already approved the
wideninS to 37 feet.
authorize moved that the historic Landmark Colosision
toning Commission and City Council that by their policy,
i diseugiions rog rdino the Oak-eHickory Historic District
have previously come before the HLC, 2) the HLC stron;ly
recommends that no widening be done west of Avenue C, and
h S) the`HLC recoweads that Oak and Hickory become two-WAY,
He said 'these actions are to maintain the intetrity of the ;
historic district as previously approved. Seconded by
Ms. Conrady.
Mr. Cochran said that the Commission should have been
no tied of the proposal earlier.
1 Mr. Lowry stated that he had discussed the bend issue With
the Council members and they had said no widening would be
done,
Mr. Miller stated that he would prefer that the motion only
be about the width of the streets. Whether they are two-way
or not could be considered later.
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Mr, Hayes stated that being two-way would slow the traffic
down and make it safer and pore convenient for the residents.
Mr. Cochran said that repaving alone would increase the speed
of traffic on the street.
Ms. Abbott stated thatincreasing traffic will be a detriment
to the district, Cutting down trees will not be an Improve-
ment, The property values and quality of life in the district
will be adversely affected.
Roll call vote:
Ms, Abbott - aye
p Mr, Barker -.aye
Mr, Cochran - aye
Ms, Conrady • aye
F
rc Mr, Fickey - aye
Mr, Hayes aye
t, Mr, Lowry aye
Mr, Miller • aye.
Ms, Shelton - aye
" Motion carried unanieously (9-0),
Mr, Hayes caked, if the Commission could be advised of
anything' affecting the historic district,
Mr, Coohron said that the Commission should also be advised
of irpendiny demolitions. He said that he had heard that the
t Chamber of Commerce is also against the widanlnt of Oak Street
because it is a needless expense, The Issue will also'a
addressed by the Denton Historical Society, Denton County
II, storical Commission, and Beautification Task Force agendas.
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Ms, Abbott stated that page. 3 poragraph 10 should rend
it...the'Hit" Building at TkU Is worth noting",' She said
that page S, p'ara rmph 8 should rol&lf he house on Uri ture
may be ought by t, David's Church A1<i might be schedulled
for eventual demolittan. In the pest, Orico'T'emple yy'anted
to buy the house on the northeast corner of Pulten; Oak, and C
Gregg with the ,idea.,'," She' also said that Doge 6', pars- i
roph l should read 1454 Abbott sppeculated that the church
light reasonably plan to oventuolly build a ssnctusry,,."
Mr, Miller stated that Palo 6, pore raph 2 should reed
".,,the fraternity wouldn t remove he secon floor room
from the porch because,,,"
No. Conrody stated that page 6, paragraph 15 should read
"The Commission heeds an crdlnance controlling debo itions".
She alto said that page 7, arc roph It should read "historic
districts should be areas t9st aspire pride, not mediocrity",
i it was moved by Mr. Hayes and seconded by Ms. Shelton to
approve the minutes of August b, 1911, as corrected. Motion
carried unanimously (9 0),
111, Discussion es, Preserva iontrlanner,n'mCex*$ Historicalh
Coiomisslon
Mr, Jones stated that the Certified Local Oovernment program
was ereitod by the Pork Service to help states°fuad preserva
a ion'activitie5, fox$$ began its program in lots. Beauitont
wts the first town to be cortifled, Corppus Christi 13 the
istest. Every state has optiogs.about!the eteition of its
Pro raw. Texas his now made counties eligibls,for cerr,ifi•
ii cotton, The State office must ,ass on 10 percent of the
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Keetrng of November 4, 19d6
' Page Saventoon
SECTION I.
r # The Council or the City of Denton hereby deClares Tuesday,
November 18, 1986 to be Mayors D-Day In the war on Drugs In the
City of Denton, Texas,
SECTION If,
ThAt the citirerur of the City of Denton, Texas participate
to our goal of a drug-fro* City and a drug-ices America,
3ECTION III.
{ That this resolution shall become effective immediately
i upon its passage and approval,
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PASSER AND APPROVED this the 4th may or November, 1906,
( 1 RA ST Pn NSP MAY0
fI CITY Of DENTON, TEXAS
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Chew Motion, Alford second that the resolution bo Approved, un roll
' call dote, McAdams "ayer6 Alexander 'Ayes" Hopkins 'aye,' Alford
aye, Chew aye, and mayor ktephens 'aye,' Motion Carr Lad
unanicously.
y, 'rho Council 9e0e4ve4 a report oa the following disdel'-
laneouA YatterO from the City Manager.
i City Manager Lloyd katteli eo"tted that transportation would oo
tovi404 for Council' McNbars Attending the Qlaneing seaiiher ',,n
Dallas on NOVarber Thos* lntarastad WOW "At in the Civic
` Center packing lot at 1100 a.n, And the group would return to Denton
Around 6130 p.m._
MOU3r. p0081014datoo had been offered by, the City's auditors for a {
fait iemiaar, The Council decided 'ore Tufaday, NOV60"t 15th at
540 p.N. In the City Council ChaNbete.
Narrall concluded by reported that at the close the the City's
financial books, the general revenues ekoeedad rkpendituras Dy
approximately #194,0000
1. Wo *gaineds
No items of new buainess veto suggested by Council members
for future agendas.
The Council than considered agenda 1460 11 Which had been 'jolayea
duo to time oonstrainte,
The Council aenaidered giving staff direction ragsrdin9
engLneoring work on the Oak-Nickory straet,Lnprovemane pro3oot,
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city Manager Lloyd karrell reported that the Hickory street oasign
had been delAyed until after January 1 per Cdunoil'e Inetfu4tLoo!•
Other projects Wouia be Started in the hissed, The deaign element
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Spoke to two suo3ectst one WAS the long range tranapottaeton plan
for the City, which would be vitally important. Hickory could ce
d4signed to be one-way with couplets with one etde left for on
street parking or it could be Lett rwo-way with no parking. Staff
was presenting four A tornAtiveal
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1. a width of 37 fast with 3 lanes one-way (r#presenting
f A savings or $700000)
2. a width of 37 to 45 foot with 3 lanes one-way Ana
Zq parking on 1 lane (Fa rea OU)
V entlnq a aaVinya of $5000
1 3. a width of 45 feet with 3 loofa one-way with paekLng
s on l side (representing a savings of ;2a,00u)
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on both sides (rapcssantinq no savings)
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r chew motion, Alford Second to direct staff to proceed with the
enyinearing work on the Oak-Hickory street improvement prd)Wct with ;
alternative F4. Nokion darned 5 to 1 with Council Memgar McAdams
ing the 'nay' vote.
9. No official action on pkecutive session items of L*gAl
mattdeo, real estate# personnel ant/or board Appointments was won.
1 !0. Th1 Council cvnV%Add into the Exrcytiv• Session to aisouss
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official action was taken,
with no furlvher items of business, the tweeting was add urned,
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TO: Mayor and City Council
FROM. Frank H. Robbins, Executive Director for Planning
and Devolopment
E SUBJECT; Oak Hickory Street Reconstruction Project
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REQUESTED ACTION
Following are the decisions requested of Council,
1. Add an Oak-Hickory Thoroughfare Plan note to the Denton
I ! Development Plan,,
2, Approve the Oak-Hickory Construction Plans,
3, Approve protected tree removals if the a roved construction ca1I for removal ofmore than the one hackberrytree~n
+ located on the north side of Oak Street near Avenue G.
Recommendations from the planning and Zoning Commission (P$Z) and
the Historic Landmark Commission (HLC) are enclosed.
Enclosed are;
A. The Planning and Zoning Commission's recommendation to add an I
Oxk-Hickory Transportation Note to the Denton Development Plan ;
with `their relevant lminutes$
B. The Historic Landmark Commission's recommendation to add an
Oak-Hickory rransportation'Note to the Denton Development Plan
with their relevant minutes.
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arking for a specific period of time
a, Remove on-street p
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b, Make Oak and HiBrae(HLC)1 the way between Carroll
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lanes at a future date after coordination with
c, Add bike l
the University of North Texas (PfrZ).
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d, sea Tab F, Oak Street res's comuaents.
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C, The Planning
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protected tree removal associated w#th the Oak~Hickor
recommendation concerning
reconstruction project with their m
mutes, Y Street,
D. The Historic Landmark Commission's recommendation
the Oak-Hickor
minutes, y street reconstruction Pro concerning
feat with their
Staff memorandum dated September 26,
citizen meeting held on $e 1988
Oak-Hickory Street recons rtember 22, 198 concerning a
memo are construction o uction pro ect,' about the
Council minutes about options) Attached to this
aHic street statistics, and 1986
H#kory,
Staff memorandum concerning
1 along Oak between Jagoe an g citizen meeting for homeowners
November 17, d Avenue G that
1988. was held on
Gh staff memorandum to Plannin
icies for Oak and Hickory g SatndreetsZon, Zoning Commissi
Pol on regard!
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recommendations
and addresses the Oak-Hickory ssuesakes
SUMMARY OF RBCOMMBNDATIO
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1• Thoroughfare Plan note ;
P$z and the HLC
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Staff recommends adoption. of the p Z
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flexibYe preservation
and a~a goal but and more
Y be adopxd wi't'hout further study.
Z. Reconstruction
Both P$z and HLC recommpnz reconstruction generally within
exi treating "footprint'". recommends tha only
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3, Other Considerations y one protected
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PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION
Oak-Hickory Thoroughfare Plan Note
BACKGROUND
During discussion of the Oak-Hickory Street reconstruction project,
the Planning and Zoning Commission found that a Thoroughfare Plan ,
note was necessary for a portion of residential Oak and Hickory
Streets. The Thoroughfare Plan designates both Oak and Hickory
Streets from Bonnie Brae to Carroll` Boulevard as secondary
arterlals, Without some modification to the Thoroughfare Plan, the
Denton nevelopinent Plan calls: for four lane divided streets to be
built on Oak and Hickory along this subject stretch, The Planning
and Zoning Commission, as well as the Historic Landmark Commission
recognized that four lame divided roads, in the Carroll Boulevard to
Bonnie Brae area of Oak and Hickory, would cause great damage to the
attractive and historic character of neighborhoods.
RECOMMENDATION
Accordingly, the Planning and Zoning Commission recommended modifing
the Thoroughfare Plan to protect these neighborhoods. ;
After two long, detailed considerations, the Planning and Zoriing
Commission on November 300 1988 recommended that the Denton
Development'Plan be amended by adding the following to the Long
Range Thoroughfare Plan Notes:
5, Thoroughfare Plan Notes
b. "Specific (refer to map on page 53)
7) Oak and Hickory Streets
It is recognized that the Historic District along Oak and Hickory
Streets is one of Denton's most valuable and sensitive neighbor-
hoods, is a source of community pride, and is an area whose historic
character should be protected and preserved, Protection and preser-
votion of the character created by the homes in the area along Oak
Street and not within the Historic District should also be
accomplished.
Accordingly, the following policies are designed to protect and
enhance the neighborhood character of the area along Oak and Hickory
Streets between Bonnie Brae and Carroll Boulevard.
1) Oak Street between Bonnie Brae and Carroll Boulevard should not
be wider than allowing for two travel lanes; plus on-street
parking in selected areas and/or bike lanes 'in selected areas.
2) Hickory Street from Carroll Boulevard to Welch Street should be
no wider than allowing three travel lanes and on-street parking
on one side of Hickory Street and/or bike lanes' Hickory Street
from Welch to Bonnie Brae should be no wider` than` allowing two
travel lanes and on-street parking and/or bike lanes,
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t: remain on both sides, except as follows;. a) where multi-familto
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development in excess of 10 units per `acre or nonresidential`
development exists. On-street parking may be eliminated on the
side of, the street with such amulti-family or non-residential
area, b) Between Jagoe and Avenue G parking on the north side
of Oak Street may be, removed if the ~Ity Council finds that such
a removal would be needed for safe and efficient traffic flow.`
On-street parking on the south side of this section of Oak_
should not be eliminated unless the Council finds that placing a
bike lane in this section is in the public interest by
maxirizing the transportation capabilities of existing streets
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the staff his also provided the Commission with Infor-
mation in conjunction with an earlier toning request.
The research ndicates that there was a fire at one plant
that resulted in an evicuatiun,
RhOUTTALi Mr. Jester Jr; stated Safety-Kleen has not had
an-`y sppills and there were no employees that were con-
plain no of breathing problems, He said that they have
not stated wnether they would condemn the water well or
Chair declared public hearing closed.
DECISION( Mr, Olasscock' stated that he understood that
tFo expansion would be for just a warehouse and no
j chemicals would be recycled in the new portion,
Mr, Glasscock moved to recommend approval of t-88.020
with the condition stated by staff, Seconded by
Mr, Engelbrecht and unanimously carried (6-0) for
approval,
w . ( IV. Consider making a recommendation on Article 17, Signs, of
+ Appendix b, toning, of the Code of Ordinances,
Mr, Holt moved to table the consideration of the $ism
ordinance until the November 9 loss meeting, Seconded by
Ms, Kiker and unanimously carried ,(6.0),_
f V, Consider in amendment to the `Denton Development Plan to add a
note on the Thoroughfare Plan about the widths and parking on
Oak and Hickory Streets,
SPAPP KBP0 Tt Mr, Robbins stated that the langUae in the
memo a was on the Commissioner's desks were different from
what they received In their packets,; He stated that, on the
new memo, deleted words were crossed out and additional words
were underlined,
F Mr, Aobbins stated that at the time that the packets were
pasted out to the Comalssloasr's, he was not aware of the
three 'travel lanes of traffic on part of Hickory Street. He
said that was the most substantial change from the document
that was in the Commissioner'spaekets,
Mr, Robbins said that staff was recommending approval of the
amendment to protect the historic district ilon oakk and
Hickory Streets as well as other homes outside the diatrlct,
1 Mr, Clark added that the area was not affected by the CIP
project,
jj Nr, Robbins stated that to clarify Mr,
Clark's statement, the
area between welch Street and south Carroll Boulevard is not
part of the construction activity in the City's CIP project.
1 He said that it was in the area that the policy would apply,
1!! The policy would apply to Hickory and Oak Streets between
t Bonn e'Brae add'Carr011'Boulevard*
! hr, Holt asked if this area of the street would not be paved,
Mr, Clark said tbit the only part affeoted by the CIP distrtj is Hickory SStreetbebetween
Carroll Boulevard and 'Welch Street is net affected,
Mr. Olisicock asked if there was parking on both sides of oak
Street, Mr, Clerk said that it varies with the location,
Mr. Holt asked what wider than the footprint wsi,
Mr, Robbins s tied that if the policyy is adopted, the
Eaot rants would be wider where libelad "wider" han the
exit ing footprint to acdommodste what was said it in earlier
meeting.
Mr, Holt stated that the Commission's recommendation was to
keep the existing footprint,
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Mr, Robbins said that there would be a pproblem if, built
accordlnQ to the ppolicy, there are liability issues asso•
ciated with buliding a substandard street to allow on-street f
parking, and the two travel lanes, He said that staff would
not recommend to do something that which the city ■ay have
some liability,
Mr. Holt Usxed if there was a liability If nothing was done,
Mr, Robbins said lie did not chink so,
Ms, xiker stated teat maybe the Commission should table the
request or make a Nation since the conversation was going in
circler,
Mr, Holt asked if the Commission could postpone the discus-
sion until the next meeting,, The Commission agreed,
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Historic Landmark Commission Recommendations
Thoroughfare Plan Note
1? Oak street between Bonnie Brae and Carroll Boulevard should
not be widened
2} Hickory S'treat from Carroll Boulevard to Welch Street
should not be widened and changed to allow two travel lanes i
and on=street parking on both sides of Hickory Street
and/or bike lanes, Hickory Street from Welch to Bonnie
i Brae should be no wider than allowing two travel lanes and
I on-street parking and/or bike lanes,
Attached is a copy of the HLC's minutes which show that various
points were raised that relate to item 3'of the staff's recom-
mendation but no formal action was `taken, Other than their
receding recommendation they did not appear to feel that they
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Ms. Rosa pointed out that the lot at 1122 East sycamore is in
the flood Plain. Federal funds for the renovation of the
house would not be avallabia unless
it 19 moved, The let is
also slated to become part of a new park.
Mr. Ellison said that demolition could be delayed on the house.
Ms, Evans stated that someone could buy the house privately at
a foreclosure sale.
oore statedthat the Parks Department is interested in
tihd Mlo itself,
Mrs Ellison stated that the citizens need to be informed that
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help,
Ms, Shelton said that thorn are other older houses in the area,
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them. They often start fires in the winter and the neighbors
I are concerned.
j Mr, Miller moved that the Commission look at the 10 houtes
slated for demolition prior to the next meeting, Seconded by
Mr. Lowry and unanimously carried (8.0),
Mrs Lowry asked, that the chairman be sent a list of the
buildings and informed of the motion.
Ms# Ross,, Mr, Doyle, Mr. 6llison,;and Ms, Moore left the meeting,
ll. Discuss and consider the Oak and Hickory Street Projects
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MrI Hayes stated that he is concerned about limiting on-street
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parkins for multi family developments, That 1s where it is
probably most needed, He also said that Hickory _Street
from
Carroll Boulevard to Welch Street should [lot be widened, No
more than two Was of traffic and two laces of on-street '
pparking should be allowed. He said that Oak Street should not
6e 'widened at ail.
i Mr. Hayes left the meeting.
! The Commission considered plans for rebuilding Oak Street,
r Ms. Evans asked if the residents want parking. on both sides of
the streetb The issue was not addre+saed at the neighborhood
meetin , Ms, Abbott said that she would like to see two lanes
of tra tic and one park,tol lane,
Mr, Lowry asked why the size of the lanes have increased fror
the pprevious proposal, Mr, Clark stated that the memo in the
Commission's back-up was prepared by someone else.
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Has Bvans stated that 12 feet is the ideal 'size for a travel
lane,
Mr, Barker stated that the footprint of Oak Street should not
be changed.
Mr, Clark stated that the traffic movements on Oak Street have
been watched, Changing the curbs will not allow someone to go
faster, but will hopefully prevent some accidents.' A`12 foot
lane includes a foot ana one-half of gutter. People don't
drive its them, They will park in them.
Mr. Harker asked the speed limit on Oak Street, Mr. Clark
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Mr, Barker said that there are no speed limit signs.
Mr, Lowry stated that he is concerned about changing the.,
connection between the Historic District and the rest of the
project. He said that Oak Street should not be widened
between Carroll and Bonnie Use,
Ms, Abbott stated that guttering is needed along Oak near
f Avenue a
1 Mr, Lowry moved to recommend that Oak Street should not be
widened between Bonnie Use and Carroll except for guttering
I at the intersection with Avenue 0, Motion died for lack of
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Mr, 'Clark stated that the-plan for Oak Street through.the
Historic District calls for the elimination of the existing
jog and a small widening of 'the intersections to im rove the
turning radius. The hump will be taken out of the Inter
section it Mounts Street, No: trees will be renoved. The
sidewalks will tot be upgraded.
Mr, Lowry stated that he does not Pant traffic to go any
faster tprough the area
Mr, Clark said that the drive is unsafe if a car stops to
-front of another one. The turning radii are not a major
problem but the City would like to widen them to a common,
standard size.
Mr, Lowry roved to recommend Mr. Hayes's suggestion that Oak
street not be widened nor Hickory between Carroll and Welch
and that would he chaa ed to no more than two travel°ianes and
two onwstreet parkin apes. Seconded by Was Shelton and
unanimously carried 17-0),
Mr., Clark stated that Hickory between Welch and Carroll will
not be redone hecauss it was not part bf rho bond election,
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Mr. Barker emphasized that the new curb radii were not to be
approved.
M3. Shelton and Mr. Clark left the meeting.
Mr. Miller stated that traffic people naturally have the urge
to widen lanes,
Mr. Lowry clarified that curb excavation would be over the f
current footprint and the motion was meant to retain the
current width. He said that the motion was meant for the
I entirety of Oak Street.
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Mr, Lowry stated that there will be a tour of the Jones Farm
on November 30, 1988. Mr, Cochran can be contacted for wore
! details. Senator'Glassgow has come out in favor of Jones
Farm, A motion of support -from the Commission would be 1
helpful, The Jones Farm is located within the Lake RNy
I Roberts area, It is a workin farm oa a historical and
oreheolo lcallyy significant s to, The rekas Department of t
Parks and Wild tie wants to fund a living form, This is one ~
of the sites being considered. Numerous groups are inter
ested in the project. He moved that the Commission support
the concept and recommend"puesuin dt further, Seconded by
i Mr, Miller and unanimously carrie (6-0),
V, New Business
Ms. Evans stated that a petition has been received to change
the name of pockrus Road. She asked the Commission is they
would like to have 'a special meeting to consider additional
agenda'iters. r
Mr. Lowry suggested begianing'the December meeting at as
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she would send a notice askini'the Commissioners to arrange
their schedule so that'attendance would be possible. f
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Greg Rich, `Paul Unzicker Company, 8700 Stemmons Dallas'
stated that the purpose of the rezoning is to maintain the
integrity of the neT borhoo so that sea l lots will not>
be located across from large lots,
Chair declared public hearing closed.
Ms. Brock stated that sometimes people who aren't involved
In development don't realize that there are opportunities
to actually improve developments and sake them less dense.
DBCISIONi Mr, Glasscock moved to recommend approval of
z7r-01r Seconded by Mr, kampan and unanid,ously carried
(6-0). -
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' A, Consider a plan to remove protected trees along Hickory
and Dak,streets In conjunction with street improvements,
STAPP R13P RTi Mr. Svehla stated that a neighborhood most-
Ina was ei to receive input and guidance, There were a
ggstantial number of people concerned With the trees. The
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consider any tree$ that will be affected by'01P projects.
.r if the street is widened into a 37 foot section, 'seven
trees will need to be removed and possibly another three'
I would be adversely affected, Looking at Oak Street from a
traffic standpoint, ultimately three lanes `of traffic will
be needed, this is consistent with the Development Planl`
however, the people who live on Oak Street, do not Gant it
s changed. Staff, recommends that Oak Sheet bb widened to a
i 37.foot section with two lanes for one WAY traffic and two
Way tr*ffiCrWeSt of ?Avenue 04 The alterhatIVA is to leave ;
the street in its existin Conti uration As espoused by the j
neighbors, A few trees might'stili be affected by the
improvementi anyway,
' Ms, 'smock asked if a new curb and gutter will be installed,
Mr, Svehla said yeso There'"are drainage"probiAms and new
pipbs will be needed, Bxisttn facilities are in poor
cond tiaa oasible will be done
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wor« ng Around the treat.
Ms, Hrock asked how the drainage ioprovemants will be
F effectsd if the street retains it present configuration ;
of varying widths.
Mr._Svehla said that the iob would not be easier if the
street widtha"ars not chap ed• Normally lateral movements P
are not much of o probiom gut It will be Mora difficult to
match up with the <driveways Ms+ Brock stated that there has"berjn a lot of discussion
about the ultimate plans for Oak Street,
Mr. Svehla said that the eitisting widths ,will be too narrow
in places to create the ultimate cuplets,
Ms. Brock Asked what would be ills maximum load for Oak and
Hickory Streets under the transportaticn.plon;
Mr. Svehla said that Lt is hard to detoeofne, They are
now used as rain routes in and out of the Univerilty of
North TexW There if no way to predict what load they
will AAtually be carryifiQ in a few years but the Univerilty
expects to grow and do olopmaht is altpeered at the west end
of Oak Street. The transportation plsn"ahows Oak and
Hickory as the main routo to this development area west of
1.35 and to the Univers ty.
Mss Brock asked what the streets could potentially carry if
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Mr. Syehia stated that two lanes can carry 22 000 to 24,000
vehicles, three lanes can carry 24,000 to 34,600. The
oneway cuplets are more efficient,
s Mr, Holt asked the goal of the presentation to the
Commission,
Mr, Svehla stated that the tree preservation ordinance
6 states that the Commission must determine whether or not
protected trees are being unnecessarily removed in
conjunction with C1P projects,
Mr, Holt asked what kind of trees are proposed for removal,
Mr. Svehla skid at least three oak trees, Two of which are
in the historic district.
i Mr. Holt stated that if 'a 37 foot street section is
approved; the possibility is opened for three lanes of
traffic one-way, He asked where people would park,
Mr, Svehla stated that no one has suggested changing the
traffic pattern, The City would have the option of doing
1 so in later years if desired, He said that the Historic
tandmaik CoralSasion and the City Council will also be
considering this request, {
Ms, brook stated that this is the third meeting on the
issue that she has attended The first was work serston JJ
with the:Cduncil when the 33 feat were.,agroo~ upon, the 1
second w+s the sleeting with the neighborhood, ,She said
that at the 'last Council 046 ins ,lt was suggas"tad that -a
{ transportation committee be orai4d,, This project is very
I such #.1r4hsport4tion issuq,: Bnro"llreni at the:un_iversity
E of North Togas' "1 stowing, ThYs'may iiven,that larger
streets are needed Hs ,-Brock stated that"she it"going.to
f recorrend,that Nif be diroo od to,.pi'ios,ei a.polioy a be
r attached to the Thoroushfat'gi"an stattgg,th,a.t Oak an~
J Hickory retalg th'e existing traffld pattern and thy chin as
! would *require"ubltq he#fipla, he uo£ghgergqcod needs tf~is
j proce.dt£on, 4 hisi'oric dtst idt is new and no'porki'no
Nith high spa trafld would e;a di;trirpnt, She said
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that ahe.is a lo'-none4rued",about:ths University. and thi't
r I sdMeti$so in.tbd near future tho"City g4ed! to work with the
university`off~dial'i about ideeas, biko paths, the safety
z of tudenta std. She said that she dob44 not think'that
having oak' end Hickory is major thoroughfa'rea it neceasary
to the develdprent of the high intensity area west of town,.
# Oeerge.$tewart, 2003. W,"Oak. stated that he is president of
the proyarty ow"rs Mssoeiation between Avenue C and BoHole
U1404, Ne"laid that he agrees with Hs. Aroek and endorses
her proposal",
ik Mike Codhrin , ,604 :W, Oak, stated that he also ag'reed' With
Hs; Bra k16 atstJyehts, Nt stated that t e liana is. bigger
than th:',.f{?ee'i.btit ate appreciates the itf ;~i d0ndern~ or i
tree preli>V`ation~ He said that a bouleVotd through J i
historic d_wolct is not: cod for, Dentbry' van thou h it ray I
i rake sense tc,traffic eng}nee'rinp; He sold that tie Hlstor«
is Landmark Commission Voted to odposa the Widehing c "Oak
st'ree ohd recommends that Oak and Hidkory have two way'
traff c, 'this recommendation should be'saridusly dogsid•~
erod, The dolt would not bn great and would"preserve the
nei phborhoodHe urged that Osk Street at least remain as
it is, Wldenin the street to 32 aot Would be a dissster
because it Would became too easy to sake the street three
lanes one way. The residents would have no sound arguments
against it other than emotional reasons,
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Murray Ricks, 70S W, Oak, stated that he lived on Stanley
Street on Stanley tandaThomaseStreetsr, pthe, ipe was drainage l.n
the muddle of the street and curb and gutter was removed as
needed, The qae owners lawns and trees were undisturbed.
The existing oot r nt of the street was left in tact,'
Mr` gg g f improvement on Oak
Street as an alternative tohthetcurrent proposal, Drop
inlets could be Installed as necessary but the main pipes
could be down the center of the road,
_ Mr, Svehia stated that thr) Bond issue voted on by the
citizens. requires that oak Street be rebuilt, 80 • 00
percent of Oak Street is in poor condition, It may be
~1 possible to save some of the curb but the street is buckled
and needs to be rebuilt, Mr, Svehla stated that he would
not feel comfortable recommending that the street only be
repaved, It the curbs are in good enough shape', the city
j + ill leave thhem`in place, The Aalority-of the curbs are In
bad shape and will need to be replaced to facilitate better
drainage,,
I Ms, Brock stated that if Oak street is left at its existing
width, it will have to be down graded to a collector street ;
on the thoroughfare plan. ;
Mr, Svehla stated that when a tronspprtatlon committee is
appointed, that issued could be 'considered,
Joyoe 04104x, 106S W. Oak, stated•that she is disturbed,.
f that the,Clty is not taking the residenty.who ive oa.the
street litto Atto t, tr rovin the ecppacity of Oak Street
will s4ri;ouf ll~ ► fe`ct t e uagt't of 1i e,
11 u 4 1ha said that
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{ IAr0e"ti`affiC loads, Extra trefeflc on oak Street would
effect all the residents of the historic district and the {
surrounding neighborhood Adversely, f
" Pete Odiltr,"228 Jy'oe, stated thif his Eari
Oai ly 1A from
q►evil a whichhas a historic dlstYict, 7he1r'district
is an AttrAC ion to people and enhances the oity Ebr.the s
reside6ts,. t Attracts business as Weil, The D nton
t hl'storto dirtriet;ia arailbr than-dainesville"'s Ind if a
fr►eNAY It rug th'tough ltt it will be worthless, if
11,411n1s plrpprt and th► surrounding arse are develo d,
people will pot hop oftt the flints and rush dow>j'RickCry
Street o get to the Mini ~Mall, 't'he historic district Is i
some thie of value and should be preserved for at least
another ~eoade,
hip Hgrgon "stated that she Is In favor of presd6 ing the
stone distrlet as is, except for necessory repairs,
Mr, Sveh11'stoted that portions of Oak and Hickory"Streets
Are 45 feat wide, He, asks d"if the Commission would like
these sections narrowed down to 37 feet or left to the
existing xidth, 39 foot would still leave room for A
irking line. He told that Pr Street will 0n1
Y be rebuilt
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Oak and Hickory Streets,
DB 2 r: kr, Holt moved that no trees be removed (tor oak
an c ory"Striots,
` Mr, Olaasdock said that there are some dead trees in the
ri pht•of•Way th should be rotmoved, He risked if the
sidewalks will r.edone,, 11
Mr, Svehlo said yes and that the dead trees would 'be
removed, No palmed out that there Are'UV living trees
that ray be aftlate'd b the improvements even if the
existing footprint of she street is followed. It depends
on the root systems of the trees. Staff will consult with
Jahn Cooper, the County Agriculture Extension Officor,
About the trees,
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Motion was seconded by Mr, Kamman and unanimously carried
(6.0).
Ms, Brock moved that staff prepare a policy statement that
says Oak Street will have no more than 'two Lanes of traffic
1 plus parking, with the traffic pattern to remain a3 itcy
is,
and no parking will be removed In any area. Thispoli
° would be attached to the thoroughfare plan In the Denton
Development Plan, Seconded by Mr, Holt and unanimously
rried (6.0),
8. Make a recommendation on preliminary repplat of Lots 1.23
to Lots 1R-16R and Lots 42.43 to Lots 42R-51R, Block A,
The Woodlands of Township 11,
STAFF RRPORTI Ms, Rvans stated that the preliminary_replat
o o s to Lots IR•16R and Lots 42.43 to hots 42R-SIR,
block A$ The Woodlands of Township 11, is being done _In
conjunction with the toning case heard earlier in the
evening, The property is zoned PD-6 and single-family
development is Antielpatsd,
o 1) OM Mr, Kaaman roved to recommend appproval,of the i
Pre M eery repfat of Lots 1.23 to Lots IR-16R and Lots `
r 42.43 to Lots 42A-SIR, Block A The Woodlands of Township
! T1, Seconded by Ms, Morgan ana unanimously carried {6.0),
C. Make a recomesndation on`pro¢¢osed fee for downtoniq of
non residential toning distracts where residential uses
exist,
STA P'ATI Ks, Sven `Vtatbd that she~hAd informed the
ooa as on a few'Me tins' Ago that the elf' propposed A
systie'.tG;initi,eto own9oning in some Area , 4c
carmission'neads to leek it sore existing lihd uses that
are durr6atly zonhd,for hlgher''tntons Ity uses,, Under the
C40NOitiIve iontnA 1}Ait;'residin l it structu a in 44nresi-
dentfal flatrlcts,:wtii no. b A11046d to v4tutid if over 50
percent of the strUoturels ~e,etroyed And t 'i
do;
fi Add bons, C ,,y also cannot
t Ike oraiiiion tltght Kant to;d ns der a
li reeduotion;of one•hrlf q th0 current tabs q r 84t~,Q0 for
gs acres, or Ease And 1,100 for bore then ve;&Ods
Other. Togqa are .t0 hiV4 h6 66 At 011or to have 46,100
' for doaK '6aln progortles'in the noh-600alAtiivo"26416;
di'itrict snd'then ne•hslf or soot other fee for peoperties
that. Are general eynsoning cases from one residential use f
to''onother, SCofr recomaeuds the opt,ion,of one-half of
current fees, Ms, lvans stated that there are propertyy
oK>lers f'r.oM.southrld00 urgentzoned for 0nreiid41htlat
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use: present At tke.Ke .Eing, a<6Xiatin' land 0C oI
r two•fArlly,And the pro arty 10*d restr tted for reit
dedtial Uses, She s(AV d the ciflisialativa/nen•eU,Mraalat1Vd
or Inance becomes effective JAnliiry 1010 to prevent Wild-
in
,nee residential 4nits.in A '606•residential'district.
f The ordlnance was sq!OVJd; beeaGse there sae A pr6biea'with
J e6ple building su-fatally unite' in industrial districts,
These uses were Upsntid~pated add the infrastructure was
not in placev SeVerAl residents of the neighborhood'could
' briny In a reduest together and iplit the fees,
the pHeoplesbetpgfablento odd nAuor rebuildhit necessary.
He. evans said yes,
Mr. Holt asked if the peopple wkil have to to through the
regular ronind process, MA. ovans said yes,
Fred Vaughan, 306'Holly Hilf,'stated that the development
he resides Yn was approved 18, ers 416.
Y She city has now
plaeeQ restricti6ns on the"pt6'peraty that are Unfair to the
residents. The residents s ou d not be asked to correct
somdthingg that is not their fsGlt, The property is now-
unsellrbte,
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Tne regular westing of the Historic Langmark (omaissfon of the City
of benton,'lexas, was neld on September 12 1w88, at 5too P.m. in
the C!v£1 Uetensa kodm of'the Munlelpal building,
Present; Judith Aobott, h'illfam'Barker, Mike Cocl;ran,
Catherine Coarady, Gaylen Fickey, Richard hayes,
buliitt Lowry, Tom Miller, and Janet sheiaon
Ab ant; William Hansbury
Present from Staff: Elizabeth Evans, Planning Administrator;
Joe Morris, Assistant City Attorney; Jerry Clark,
City Engineer; and Olivia Caron, secretary
I Chairman Mike Cochran called the meeting to order,
E ( New Business
onsi'deratlon of proposal to widen Oak and Hickory streets'
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and remove protected'treex
Mr, Clark stated that, tits Ctty Is still in the data athering
stage.' preliminary drawings have been done and the City.
Council has expressed,,Its approval. The project involves
Oak street between CCarroll and Bonn[ tf
etwben Welch aud.Bonnfe Braeo and pry gStreecnaty+entOakt
` i and Scrf ture, The bngineerint-Department islaware,of. the
Historic District, There are a loci of issues in relation to
trees, The 8n81 bring Department is Planning for the least'
effect on the environment, he City j
ing Oak Street to 37fe'bt. t n11 toot t,l'suppIon w£dein
` eight foot parkini lane, Tha'existing 40nfil4ralitionbwill raiot
be changed, The law of traffic will continua to the same
way. as eurrentl
would be hard `to travel hrnu
in t s ht i1sheiCeomliEie{oprswiu~tteatlons
are W6140". Red line'draw ere avaitabfe for review in
i the gnylneerinl! Department,
fdening the street to 39 toot
will require the removal of some trees but the street will be
weaved wherever possible.
Mr. Miller asked the objective of the widening, f
Mr, Clark said that the streets have d'eterlorsted and ware
_appraved !n a bond eleefion to be upgraded,
Mr. Millar asked why Oak is being widened,
Mr. Clark said that it is an fnconsLtent width and widening
th will g(ve the Clty the option of raking it three Iane in 1
the Future,"
Mr, Lowry asked if there is a possibility of raking Oak and
Hicko'r'y two-wit In order, to discourage traffic, He asked
about hettfn1023,160 Htlnfvers(ty, and Scripture/Congress carry
the traffic a.
Mr, Clark said that he is willing to cons der the possibility,
There would be the same need to widen Scripture,
Hr, Hoye} Asked when the street study was done,
The Stiff ratestthe $treats aforltheaamountoofgdetertoretlon,
He said that an 6ri81W thoroughfara study was done in toff.
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' The 'Land Use Planning Committee changed the Thoroughfare Plan
In 1986, This project is consistent with th
by the LUPC, e approved plan
Mr. Cochran asked the cost of repaving,
Mr, Clark said fS-S per square foot $I5 if curbs and gutters
are'inc uded, t also costs a lot to remove the old street,
The bond election called for the streetr to be rebuilt,
Mr, Hayes stated that he was a member of the LUPC and he
always underst6od that Oak and Hickory were to remain in
their present condition,
t4s, Abbott asked If Pry would be widened.
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Me. Clark said no.
1 Ms. Shelton asked if there are lane !
plans to wide
j ~ n Bonnie Hrae. ~
Mr, Clark said yes,
Mr, PI'ckey asked if the traffic on University has decreased
in the last few years,
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Mr, Clark said that It has increased,
Mr, Dickey asked if the lights will eventually be
i synchronized,
' Mr, Clark said ye It is a complicated project and is
being computerliel,
f Mr. Cochran said that pynchtohix(n the lights on Univarllty
` should help take traffic of£ Oik Street. I. + has been An indleatio He asked if there
n of a need to go to three one-way
lines on Cak and Hick'ot`y streati,
I r,.Clerk s id'no,•, The new pavement will last 20-2.S years,
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f is 'welcome welcome to -look at the prelitaigary drawings,
TyMre #ae
he Will b ion of the
project a1t.the Planning and
2oning Coe isa on ae elt
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Mf, AArker asked if the Council had to approve the project, a
Mr, 04chran s a'.ed that the Coun '
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wlde(ling to S~ Beet, ready approved the -
Mr, Lowry roved that the Histo it LandUrk Commit
Authorl;e tho ChalrrAA tot 11 remind the Piaryniti#'And j
Udiq Ce,A~MisalOn And City Council that b tholf rplio
disou1#Iona reyording'the Oik•Hlckory H~at~rfo District
haV~ ~r0vioulhYY;;core before,'06 HLC, 2) the HLC strongly
! reo M And that no widdning bp. done wait of Avenue Co and
3)
Jha HLC recommends that Oak And Hickory bedere two-way,
He A~d,these Actions Art to maintain, the Integrity QF the
historic district as previously approved, Seconded by
Ms, Conrady,_
Mr, Cochran said that the Corriieton should have been E
noti led 'o tha proposal eatller,
Mr. Lowry stated that he had discussed the bond issue r~ith
the Council members And they had said no widening would be
done,
Mr, Mi11er scatt d that he would prefer that the motion only
be about the wl3th of the Streets, whether they are two-way
or not could be consliored later; _
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Mr, Hayes stated that being two-way would slow the traffic
down and make it eater and more convenient for the residents,
Mr. Cochran said that repaving alone would increase the speed
of traffic on the street,
Ms. Abbott stated that increasing traffic will be a detriment
to the district, Cutting down trees will not be an improve-
ment, The property values and quality of life in the district
will be adversely affected.
Roll call vote;
Ms, Abbott aye
Mr, Barker • aye,
Mr . Cochran -
Conrady - aye
Mr: Dickey - aye
Mr. Hayes - aye
Mr, Lowry , aye
I Mr, Miller - aye
Mss Shelton aye
E ' Motion carried unanimously (9.0).
Mr, Hayes asked if the Commission could be advised of
j anything affecting, the historic district,
Mr. Cochran said that the Cormisslon should also be advised
i of impending demolitions. He said that he had heard that the i
I Chamber of Commerce la also against the widening of Oak' Street
because it is a needless expense,, The issue will also be
addressed by the Denton Historical Society, Denton County
storical'Comri!Sion, and geautiflcation Task Force agendas,
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As. Abbott 'Lteted„that psae S paragraph 10 should read
Is wortb noting". She said
the Main Building at e-
that page 5, paragQraph 0 should read fthe house oil."Scrlrrcure
may be 'oujht by '3t, Dlyid'"1 Church and might be saheduNd
for even tual"desolition, in the peat, Oraee Temple wanted
to g buy lih'O house on the northeas t corner of Fulton, Oak, and
Otegg with Wthe Idea.,," She also said that a e 6) para.
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rah 1 should road "ha, Abbott svecutated tha the church
rigst ressonably`pian to eventually build a sanctu3ty,
Mr Miller itat44d that pae.6, paragQraph 2 should read
the froternity weuldn t remove the second floor room i
fro; the porch because,.," i
Mg, Conrady'ssttated'that ps t 6, paragraph IS should read
"The COmMiiii6n needs in, insnoe controlling demolitidns"
$he alto said that pagb ,M 7,. arafsIropi 11 should read "historic
districts' should be arses t9at nsp re pride, not mediocrity",
, and seconded by Ms, Shelton to
It was roved by Mr He
approve the minUtes of August 8) 1900, as corrected, Motion f
carried uhsnlmously (9.0),
111, Discussion of Certified Loc;l Government Pre ram with
Dwayne Jonss, FreeerVation lannex, Texas it torital
' Commission
Mf,"Jonos stated that the dse tifisd L0"cal GoV"erqrent Pro tam
was created by the Fark $atVito to help states fund prea rvs•
tion activities, Texas bngll'n its program in 19st Beaumont
was the first town to be certified, Corpus Christi is the
latest, Byery,stats has options `about the creation of its
progaram, texas has ;low made counties eligible for certifi• ;
Cation. The State office rust pass on 10 percent of the
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MEMORANDUM
TO: Members of the Planning 8 Zoning Commission
FROM: Rick $vehla, Deputy City Manager
DATE:
i E f September 26, 1988
SUBJECT: Oak and Hickory Street Project
j Thursday nigght,, wo hold a "le ghboxhood meeting!' for input from
911 the residents` and businesses on Oak and Hickory Streets:
The discussion and the urpose of the meeiing.was to.provide '
Information to the neighborhood on the amount of tress that
would be taken if, we usdd a 37' 8ecti1n, The discussion began
to be centered around the trees and additional discussion on
the appropriateness of the lane width and use of the street
continued,
There,,pIre approximately.35.40 people in. attendance,.,and the ,
discussion losted.for an hour and a:half, 'there were many
questiorns asked, and a number `of statements Made. Most of the
comments contered.'around leaving as many trees as possiblq and F
also leaving Oak Street at its present width. The residents in l
the His.tori'cal District preferred two lanes of traffic wtth'one
lane of parking, and the residents west of Avenue C preferred '
to have-parking on both sides and one lane of traffic in both '
directions,
There. were a few comments made on Hickoryy~ Street.that centered
mostly around.pkrking or the aocess for busiA'o$s*s.in that
area,, the comments on parking centered mostly on the, area west j
of Avenue C, There were at least two people that asked that,
the pparking,be altered so that more sitq distsools,couid be
realized dear driveways,, in facto one of the'su gestions,.was s
to reposition the parking on the south side of H ckory betwson
Avenue C and Avenue a rather than on the north s de.
There were also P. couple of comments about the side streets
porticularl.y Miller Street, The residents asked that the siaff
remove some of the parking on Miller to make it less;eongested
and.sa'fer..
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At the end of the meeting, I asked for a show of hands, and the
group voted 34 to 3 to leave the basic "footprints" of the
gutter lines intact on Oak Street, That would mean that Oak
would vary in width from 34 1/4' at Carroll, to 3$' at Denton
Street, to 36' from mounts to Bryan, back to 351 and 35 1/2' at
Avenue B'to Normal, back to 36' from Avenue C to Miller and
then varied from 37' to 421, west of Bradley, They also said
that they want to leave Hickory at the width it is and in the
same kinds of operations, Finally, included in their vote was
a statement that every effort should`bo made by the staff to
save any and all the trees on Oak and Hickory.
As mentioned earlier, the reason for bringing this project back
to P $ Z is because of the new Tree Presorvation Ordinance.
The ordinance says thatall Capital Improvement Projects shall
be 'designed and constructed to protect the trees to the degree
that reasonably
possible, We are to submit to P $ Z
Information as to what protected trees would be effected by
projects, and P,4 Z is to wake a recommendation to the Council
as to whether the project removes protected trees unnecessarily,
! I have included for you backup, some minutes and previous
recommendations that the staff has made to Council when these
! two projects were beinS discussed, Obviously our
recommendations were based on the fact that the.Transportation
Plan shows both Oak and Hickory as secondary arterials, Our
normal standard for secondary arterial sections is afour lane
median divided structure, From the outset, staff began looking
at ways to reduce widths to make the projects more economical
and to still carry the loads suggested by the Transportation
Plan; We tried to look at options that would reduce the width
and at the time time try to carry significant'awounts of {
traffic, This was based on the fact that North Texas is
' continuing to grow, and in the Denton Development Plan, there
was an attempt to define a major intensity area west of i-35
with one of the major access points being Oak Street 'and 'the
Oak Street underpass.
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After the Tree Preservation Ordinance was approved by Council,
the staff went bAck and ieoked again at these tW6 projects,,
Because of the need to try to preserve trees, we tried to look
at alternatiVes'that would narrow the street even more, in our
last meetings with the Council, we'`suggested a'371 suction,
This section is a little bit wider'n some portions of Oak
Street. We have included a list showing the Various widths on
Oak and Hickory and the percentages of the street that each one
of these represents.
The 37' section was chosen to allow for some future options
should North Texas continue to grow-and the high intensity area 3
west of-1.35 begin to develop, The 37' section would `allow two
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lanes of traffic in one direction or in both directions on both
Oak and Hickory, It would also provide enough room for one
lane of 'parking on each of these streets, At ;a later time, the
37'' sections could allow alterations to be made to 'Oak and
Hickory to provide one-way 'access on each of these streets all
the way to Bonnie Brae, in time, the aonfigu?ation could even
be changed to three lanes in each direction if development and
the loading on the streets 'necessitated it. This is the reason
the staff chose the 17' section and suggested it to the,Council,
If the 37' section Is used, seven trees larger than 1011 Will be
effected on Oak and will have to be removed. We would also
have to remove six smaller trees, two 2" trees,.two 4" trees,
and two 6" trees. We would also be relocating some crepe
grtles ano other bushes along the street. There is also a
chance that two, other trees would have to be moved depending on
r how the root systems lie in conjunction with the street. Our
j 37' section on Hickory Street would not require any tree
{ removal,
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If the recoomendation'of the neighborhood is followed, there
are several issues that the staff is concerned about. In the
E j sections that are currently two lanes one-way with parking,
there will be lanes that are narrower than our standard
requirements, Also, these kind of sections will obviously not
give any options for future use unless they are striped.in
substandard ways, In the area west of Avenue Cr since the
, widths continue to be narrow this will even be more
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lane of traffic it, each direction is 411. As` you can see from
the listing, there is only one small section thhat is wider than
the 41' section and all the rest of it grill, be 3-S' narrower
than it should be, again, this would cause' moving traffic to
be forced closer to parked vehicles, and there would be some
safety considerations that should be addressed. The same kinds
of concerns for future options would be present on Hickory from
! Avenue C to Welch.
{ (~I In conclusion, p 4 Z must make a decision or recommendation to
the Council on the projects and their rela,tionship to the
amount of tree `removal. In addition to tnat.y''the neighborhood
is seeking toot changes in the status of O,~c Street,, The staff
is concerned about these recommendations in coeparison to our
normal street`standards, If planning and Zoning would like us
to proceed With the neighborhood` recommendations, then the
t staff would recommend that changes be made to the
Transportation 'Plan ,to downgrade both Hickory and Oak to some ;
other status, We would also suggest that in areas where
parking is desired on both sides, a 41' section should be j
looked at. The other alternative is to look at a 37' section
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for both of these facilities that would allow movements to
exist as they do now from Avenue _C east, It would allow for
twolanes of travel plus a parking lane on both facilities from
Avenue C west. The staff recommends this second alternative
because it provides for safe movements of traffic and allows
options for the future.
If we can provide any further information, we would be happy to
do so.
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36,00 8 Bonnie Brae
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42.00 8 Avenue G (West Side).
36,75 ® Avenue G (East Side)
36,50 8 Fouts`
36.50 Avenue B
37,00 B Bradley
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36.25 a Jagoe (Avenue C) - 8,
35.00 A Normal
35.S0 A Avenue B
36,00 d Bryan
36,25 pry
36.00 Q Pander
36.00 / Welch
36.00 a Fulton
36400 A Mounts
35.00_ f` Denton
3430 8 Williams
34,2$ 9 Carroll
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I Pollowins the last sostiap$ several of the Council members
asked, us to look at alternatives for Hickory Street. Is
previous back-up material w had talked about parkins laver and
aakin= the street oae•way. Staff betas lookios at these
E options in aa' effort to Eollov the transportoties plod as
developed in the usvolo meat 60440 r ~ I V On the sttaclsN Map rror
will too that Oak *ad Hickory Street fore a mayor artotial
1 system for the conveyance of traffic east and west. You will
oleo We that the%e two bttoet` eventually eanbiao Into "0
! street - Oak Si rest • which leads further twat to t%4 06006Y "
E and am underpass at that juaeturs It th" as
further vest toward the a rport sad the' lalsat~' 4r
intonaitis are4 that hat be,40 costatnrd is the `"Vol
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I for "s' it tt" roars, iuti~ed. eves nowt naively aM 1 to is considering Worst~g this castors lataalty, to staff has alwayrs
Eelt thfit because of : the
taseture: arM^ eftistltt~ .
r I overpass at YSS aN the iat maitr dosipsetifts is tMa' law
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plonnisg $mido, that this w1111 become a major' Mrswe
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City and a major coadwit for east-weit traffic ,im that,
tadustrtal area to the root of the Ctty. rile in Wthat K
street should be a safer carrier ahd why Wts lessin toward a.
*"*-way pair si.acs it is the most ottieloot.
At the acme tiset the staff is Shwas awro #1 the MM.dNtY
constrai is that we all faco• tocaaao Oak and llieteryr
ono ' bloT *part a" 4*"*" 00 know ton; tIM st,
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Howrero the ono-way Couplet was not the only solution that we
looted st6 The $10 ■iilioa wtroet bond isew providoo'us with
enough funding to build oily of the following road soetinoss
Section Width Desarlption ,
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. 1siNS oae•aay ~70,00O
37'-43' throe Ianls one, way $106000
(parktng on north side between;
Avenue C and Avenue A)
45' Ultimately throe lanes one-way $xS6400
(continuous parking lane on
north aide)
Ib' Two caner in each direction $0
(initially could allow for
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i i hack of those facilities has gone eotl points 4" points. '
The 37' section allows 'us to carry~a large number at Vehicles
officteatly. It would also reduce our cost the swat. On the
Other haad, it makes ae provision for parking at all. In the
woatorM areas of Hickory, this may be all right stage that 16
"atly apartment buildings sod accomodatteas veto made is
their parka facilities to Provide for one and a half to two
f tars per dtwt~eeiity twit. Newver, it does not addreso the %#ad
of the rat deattal areas further to the east or the commercial
uttorprisea botweaww Aveaw I Sod Avoaw A6
trot second sKtiou that vaties rotttoaa 37' and 45, does silo"
3 (or part ti wtwoom Avenue C and AveMae As While this world
Vory it to tlwt existiss pattern between Awns sea
Avoome A6 it does, mot address any needs for parkin further
west et Avenue C6 lacideatellr,< this was the isittal
suggestion to Yet severalweeks see
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The next secttos to 4300 howovtr, it would be built Somewhat
dlffareat than we build our nor" I 669ttons6 It would slaw us
to build throe Janos Rill depth asphalt, which would enable wo
to carry say kind of traffic iscludits heavy 146464 NO would
site guild It of, this width as a thinner soottoa that "old be
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good only for porkiy6 IN all likalthood we would `"Soost that
this Is" her loaatrd on the sorth= Side of Nickary 1*9 its
aatire lowyth. This section wound allow as to ultioattlrf' car",
three lanes- of trorfia to ant 'ditoottoo and allow Parking aN
ow side eE t" tactlityo It Would allow us to a tw a 0 ~r
efficiest deatgr far Carrying traffic aN still lost the
demands for the parking needs.
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owstiea vend allow us to brlld': few' . traff !c i'
o►: lanes asrsatlly are spilt to tr►vido two lases f•
• diroett466 0►rieusly this does se► allele. t„r as -swth
! I t4 hs carrying capability iN one directios, 1t also rodwAs
Ow"Ot ad carrying capability bo"Ji" of
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provide parking an both it
iiow evor as the needs t. std.
a. , crew and darelop~rnt aacWtrN to the
vest, is all likelikoad,: a decision would have to, be made to
reduce parktol in the futures when this oeerrrad, the perking
capabilities would be oltainsted fro* the facility,
s Attar bearing the discussions asd toacarns of the Ceim" staff &u s gone back and telooked at the options. Since tthai
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seems to be a need for parkish stool the *Mire lonftb of the
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street, staff would suggest alterrativo IS. this Wald allow
f the construatioa of a $70 section at full Borth, sad an $1
I section for parking at a lesser dsitho tnittally this section
could be sarM and striped as a two-way sent os with parking
on oae Video This aiterapttve would also save as ;916000. In
the summer of 1907, we will begin rebvildtad Oak Street and s
similar section could be built. Moen both streets are
completed, the council would them have the option of o i "
the traffic patterns in the area to a oae-wear couplet witch '
would still allow parking on one side of each stroota We would `
toes be able to Root tie doaands of thr future growth -to the
west side of the Cit~r and still allsw fit parktag for
commercial and residomttat isoods of the citiseas along these
new facilities.
No will bare • strip rap and other imfor•stioe available for
the council at their aeett we would be
hair to try and
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4 " 8 4 City of Uenton City council minutes
Meeting of November 4~ 1986
Page Seventeen
SECTION I.
The Council of the City of Denton hereby doclares Tuesday,
November 10, 1980 to be Mayors' D-Day in the war on Drugs in the
city of Denton, Texas.
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SECTION 11,
That the citlsons of the City of Denton, Texas participate
in out goat of a druq-tree City and a dtuq-from America,
SECTION III. +
That this resolution shall become effeotivo Immediately
d upon its passage and approval.
PASSEL AND APPROVED this the 4th day of November, 1986.
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R M;H&Ns, MAYOR
CITY' Of GENT ONr TEXAY
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APPROV90 AS TO LEGAL FukMt
093RA ADAMt DNAYOVITCNr'CITY ATTORNEY
CITY OY DENTONo TEXAS
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F Chow motion, Alford second that the rasolution 04 apptOVed, un roll
s :.t call vote, Mcadamr •aya ' Alopinder "ayes' Hopkins 'ayes' Alford
•aye,• Chow 'aye,' and Mayer utophaos 'aye,' Motion carried
unanimously.
7, Tho Council recoived a report an the tollowinq mieoai-
laneoua matters it** the City Monolog,
City Manager Lloyd carrell tdpotted timer transportation would no
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i rovided for Council Membete attending the lanniAp eominar in
I Dallas on November 40 Thou interested thoui~ meet to tha C10c
Center sexing lot at 7100 asm, and the 'group would rat4RA to Denton
around f 00 p,..
gout. gobsip3~.datea had bNM Mated by, the City's auditors got a
tax seminar. The Council dedids4 cis Tuesdays NOVamber 25th at
0130 p6s, in the city Council Chambers.
Natetll concluded' by spotted that at the close the the City's
financial books the general revenues ekosedsd ompenditutae by
i approximately 01;1,0004
1. , NOW business
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ile items of nw businesa were'ouggestod by Council Mombars
for future Agendas* i
The Council than considered agenda item 12 Which had been doiayec
due to tine Constraints,
2. The Cou'ndil considered giving staff dirootto regerdlnq
engineering work on the 004tckory street improvomeAt project#
City Maftagett Lloyd Nartall tsportec that the Hickory, Bttegt oeotgn
err' had been delayed until after January l per Coundil'a tnattuoti.ons.
Other projects would be started in this inherlM, The design element
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sPOke to two sunjectal one was the
for the c ' which Would bg vithe loimpo range transportation
dtreened t to be one-way rta
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with Couplets with one r be
was pr parking. or it could be left two- aids life fo
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waad presenting lour alternatives) Y with no Parking, Staff
14 a width of 37 foot with 3 tangs ons-way (repr}tenting
a savings of $70,000)
21 A width of 07 to 45 f,ast with 0 ianet ons.w
rking on 1 lane fteNr~61 with [ eavinya o! 4Y ana
50,0oU;
3• a Width of o 45 tsst with 3 lanst one-xa with
onpa1 tide lepreeeneln9 a savings of ;2Y 000) v~rkimq
a Width of CO toot with Z lane* each way and parking
On both tides ;representing no savinga)
Statt was eecommenoinq aleernat• 13.
Ch/W motion, Aitord second to direct
Proceed with the
s,1ginestidq Work on the oak-aickory street Improuvement, pto7eat With
aitsrnative 04. Motion rattled 5 W l with Council Melaas
casting the 'may' vote,
r McAdams
No official action on 4xecutlve Session itgals -of lagal
mat tars, coal eatata, Per80Anel:an0/0r board 4PPointment/ WOO taxin, 11
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matters, real ssion to discuss
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ficial t,
Ito &I action was es taken tat*, PeraOnnel 440/09 beard aPPdigtmonts.- Lo
W16h no further Ito
04 of buslnesso' the deitlnq wa♦ adj urned,
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MEMORANDUM
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DATES November 22, 1988
E TO; Planning and Zoning Commission
~ FROM: Prank H. Robbing, Executive Director. for Planning and
Development
SUBJECT: OAK STREET NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING
I On November 170 1988 a meeting was held in City Hall with home '
I € owners living on Oak Street between Jagoe/Avenue C and Avenue G.
The `purpose of the meeting was to discuss a number of related
issues associated with the reconstruction of Oak Street in their
area and to receive their comments and provide, them to you and
Council as we review the Oak-Hickory Thoroughfare Plan notes.
Invitations to 40 hones in this area were hand delivered on
November, 10th. Fourteen householders were represented at the
meeting on November 17th. One phone response was provided on
III November 18th. Following is a summary of their 9 comments:
1. When asked about removing parking from one side of Oak
Street, 13 were opposed and two were ih favor.
2. Speeding is a continuing problem. Lowering the speed limit
might be considered.
3. Maintaining' the parking on both side would have a tendency to
slow traffic.
4. There appears to be no compelling evidence of an existing
problem that warrants having wider travel lanes in the future
thanthe travel lanes are now, Aline Width of 11 feet is
adequate and 10 foot wide lanes might work
S. The intersection of Avenue C/Jagoe and Oak is dangerous,
confusing, and often congested by fraternity on-street
parking,
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November 22, 1988
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6. Limiting on-street parking in the vicinity of Avenue C/Jugoe
should be considered.
70 Kappa Sigma Fraternity meetings take up more than two blocks
of on - street parking. Eliminating on-street parking for this
fraternity may cause "chaos."
t, Prohibiting on-street loading-zones on Oak should be
considered.
9. Several residents expressed the utility of having circular
drives, not now allowed, which would eliminate the need for '
f backing into Oak Street.
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! DATE Noveiaber 23, 1988
1 !!t TO: Planning 6 Zoning Commission
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FROM., Jerry Clark, City Engineer
SUBJECT: Policies for Oak A Hickory Street
Planning 8 '
The Engineering Division has been working with the
I i Zoning ComMission, Planning Department and the citizens to
address various design considerations of the Oak 'and 'hickory
CYP Projects. Several issues have a isen whi h~n have
and athe
presented to the Planning $
istorical Landmark Commission. Several policy ,cons iderrtions
Hf seer to be resulting from these discussions and meetings,
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The first policy addressed the widening of bot+: Oak and Hickory
Streets: Our proposed plans for both Oak and Hickory Streets
Will widen them a maximum two to, three feet ia few &teaL~arNo
trees will be affected by this widening except
where no curb and Sutter exists on Oak Street. A hackberry
tree (not an ptompiato or footprintteofonthe~~road willthbe
area The baste)
continued.: An actual narrowin 'of the road will OCCIM~l on the
west and taherements ui.nithatiarot~uhave significant parking
multi-family developp The majority
which was based on the ordinances at that
orcento have concrete
of ' the aparoAts, an estimated 90 _p
parking lots that for exceed the demand for their parking
needs, Several very small complexes do have some head in
in
parking but weThfeel our erefore antactuallnarrowing1ofatheestreetuwould
areas.
occur on the, western end,
The second issue addresses parking removal project placement in
conjunction with lane widths, 77 an exnorth
Locust Street between Shermxn Drive and Hwy
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of a 'thirty-seven foot street. One of the major them04. has
been brought out in our Transportation Planning, the Dentch
Development Plan, Thoroughfare Plan "Development and Economic
Growth Policies is the development of an adequate thoroughfare
system for Denton. Oak and Hickory Street each carry
approximately 10,000 vehicles a day, A great many of the
students from North Texas use these streets to gain access to
North Texas. A large number ofcitizens use Oak and Hickory to
gain access to the square. These two streets serve as the the
major connection between Bonnie Brae and Carroll Boulevard and
also as a connection out to 135 on the west end.
To remove Oak and Hickory Street Eton the system would
essentially eliminate all thoroughfares between Eagle Drive and
Hwy 380. Eagle Drive has a The future due to severe
I right of way limitations, 'fhe separation of two miles is
f double the recommended spacing. Relocation would place them
11 directly in other neighborhoods with an affect of the same
consequences. Locations which were suggested by citizens
include Scripture Street, Panhandle Street, Congress Street,
etc, As you are aware, there is such less available right of
way in those areas.
Parking lanes and travel lanes seen to belmajor.;issues`, We do
agree that cars are able to utilize: currant widths, However,
I when safety and. design standards are developed- and followed
throughout the Metroplex, the State of Texas and the United
Statos, we should utilize these standards, The Engineering
I ; staff at the City of Denton does not develop its own ;
specialized design standards, One of the reasons for the
manual' uniform traffic `control devices, the AASHTO' Standards
and Civil Engineering Design, Handbooks is to obtain' 'a
standardization so that the travel ing•publIc is well aware of
lane widths, turning radii, and desii~n of horizontal and
vertical curves. Traffic control features are to be
constructed so that each road does hot . bring a major
adventure. We strongly recommend that these standard street
sections be followed and 'that each street not become
individualized to the point that it has its own design widths,
design lane widths and parking specialization.
It is our reco"orkdation that utilization , of existing
conditions on Oak Street will result in >a street that has #
questionable safety characteristics such as car doors being
opened into lanes of traffic and people exiting, cars into lanes F
of traffic, The safety features provided by the 'designed
widths and lane widths recommended for this pro Oct have been
developed and utilized throughout the areas listed] above,
Texas A S M and other engineering colleges have been involved
in the developmentof these standards as have many municipal
engineering staff;; in Dallas, Fort Worth, Arlington and
Richardson.
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A final ma.j4r issue to consider is that the life of an asphalt
street is approximately twenty years, If these would happen to
be awarded to a concrete contractor that could extend up to
thirty years. If the asphalt pavement .has proper crack
sealing, drainage structure maintenance and ;overlays provided
when necessary in the ten to fifteen year range, asphalt
pavement can also obtain a thirty year life, This means that
the decisions we're making at this time will affect those using
f the streets in the years 2015 or even beyond. No one is
stating at this time that either road needs to be one way or
that all parking should be removed, However, future
capabilities of a road need to be incorporated into your design
to cost efficiently use CIP funds.
The, Historical Landmark Commission had recommended that the,
` footprint n~-c be disturbed in the historical district and we
feel we can do that since there 1s parking only on one side.
3 This obviously ignores future issues. Their other
1 recommendation is to `change that section of Htckury between
Welch and Carroll to two lanes of traffic and two parking lanes
from its existing three travel lanes and one parking lane.
This is not in the scope of this project,, That section was not
f rat;rd as needing reconstruction at the time of the bond issue,
i Therefore that issue should be addressed at a lacer date
through separate Means,
I _In summary the design proposad by the City engineering staff
j will no longer affect trees along the project. Therefore the
j major issue of trees seems to be fairly insignificant in this
j process. A final note on the modification on the parking
I lanes, if they're allowed in some places on one side, than
both sides and switch in and out, the design will continua ;
utilltation of a traffic system pattern that confuses most
visitors to the area and many residents. 'his random pattern
does 110t allow for roper utilization -of major streets such as
4 Oak and Hickory, y the street widths are maintained, wo•will
have problems in areas where there is parking on ;both sides of
the street. If the street width remains the same then there
will definitely be some safety issues with parking on both
sides, The staff fools that parking ;issuer should, be dealt
with so. that proper width of the facility can be.itlcorporatad
into the project,
As you are aware the traffic will continue to increase on Oak
and Hickory unless, they are blocked off coiplotely and 'turned
into cul-de~sacs. As than traffic increases, utilization of
unsafe design practices could become a decision that the City
of Denton will regret at a future date.
Please advise if you need further information,'
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MBMURANDUM
DATE: November 9, 1988
TO: Historic Landmark Commission l '(k/'1,"'"~ T~JJ
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PROM: Prank H, Robbins, Executive Director for
Planning and Development
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SUBJECT: Oak Hickory Thoroughfare Plrn Policy,
The Planning and Zoning Commission discussed the following policies
' which would be added to the.Denton DevelopmpLAt Plan:
The Denton Develo'me nt plan is amended by adding the following to p
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the Long ange- ioroug are Plan Notes:
5 Thoroughfare Plan Notes
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7} oak and. Hickory'Streets
It is 'recognized that the Historic District along Oak 'and'Hickory
Street5'is one of.Denton's most valuable and sensitive neighbor-
hoods," is a ,source of community pride, and is an~area whose`'hi,storic i
character should be protected-and preserved, Protection and preser- ,
yation' of the character created by the homes in the area along Oak a
Street and riot within the Historic District should also be
accomplished. ~
Accordingly, the following policies are designed, to protect and
enhance the'nefghborhood character of the area "along `Oak and Hickory 1
Streets between Bonnie Brae and Carroll Boulevard,
1) Oak Street between Boanie`Brae;`and Carroll Boulevard should not
be wider than allowing for two travel lanes plus on-street parking.
2) Hickory 5tree't from >Carroll Doulevard'to Welch Street should be
no wider than allowing three 'travel lanes and on~street parking on
one side.of Hickory Street, Hickory Street from Welch to Bonnie
Brae, should be no wider than 'allowing two travel lanes'and on-street
parking.
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3) In addition to the travel lanes, parking°that is allowed on both
sides of Oak and Hickory Streets should be allowed to remain on both
sides,, except where multi-family development in excess of lU units
per acre exists. On-street parking may be eliminated on the side of
i'J the street with such a multi-family area.
(Adopted 1988) 4 10 PROTECTED TREES
The Planning and Zoning Commission had previously approved a-tree
protection plan for oak and Hickory Streets which would allow
improvement of these two streets within the existing "footprint" of
the street's pavement and gutter. , This "footprint" alternative
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protected the largest number of protected trees'! defined by the
Landscape and Tree Preservation Ordinance as 10 inches or greater in
diameter, at four feet above the ground,. i
I ON-5TREET PARKING
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The Planning and Zoning Commission had 'previously noted that
on-street parking for (low density) homes should remain, and that ;
idea was incorporated into the above stated policy.
l Staff has noted that preserving on-street parking' on dak between
Jagoe and Avenue G would necessitate widening the street ifrmore
safety sensitive design standards were applied to Oak's reconstruc-
tion. Eliminating parking from 7,or 8:00 a.m. to 5 or 610U p.m. has
not been discussed.
HIKE LANES
There has been only limited: discussion of replacing on-street
parkinig,wi'th-:bike- lands or widening any street to allow, for five to
eight foot wide'Wke lanes., "Xn'"street". bike lanes: are not optional
but may be appropriate. A determination for bike lane provision
here is nacessarily a future decision requiring more study and
cootidination than has been done to date.
STREET WIDTH !
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On Oak Street, between Jagoe/Avenue C and Avenue 00 there is now two
way traffic, parking on both sides. of the street,, and ?'street sec-
tions" (width of pavement,curb,'and gutter) in most places from 36
to 37 feet wide, Staff suggested that for safety, and potential;
liability'reasons'that when oak is reconstructed that AY on-street
parkYngl on one side of Oak be removed, allowing Construction within
the "footprint" or b) the street section be.widened'to 41 feet.'
allowing parking on both sides. Staff suggested that a 36 to 57
foot section could be unsafe for -a secondary arEerial street with
two moving lanes and on-street parking on both sides. Diagrams of
the a)`37', 2 lane, 1 parking side and the b)'41", 2 lane, 2
parking sides sections, are attached.
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SUblhlARY OP ISSUES
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1, Protection of Oak and Hickory Glow densi residential
neighborhoods-
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2, On-street parking: where, fom, and when,
3. Travel lane width and street traffic capacity, liable if it
'q, Safety considerations and liability. Is the City
, f use roper design whenparkingsoauseilower speeds?
does no
Or, does the 'friction' of on street
5. Tree preservation,
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UCTIUN ALTERNAT1VLS gETWEliN JAG" ANU AVENUE G ON UAK $TR1iET i
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footprint, on-street parking on two sides,
rx~sting on one... side. ~
Existing footprint, on-street parking
y on-street parking on two sides. }
Wider street,
would bg from 3.5 to 5 feet for a qi foot section.
a. Widening 1
preserve trees,zmost of the widening would be
b, In order to pr
accomplished on the south side of Oak.
pOL1CY LANdUAGB ALTBRNACIVBS the i,
language, numbered 1, 2, and
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to the above policy
In addition islo i suea,directly:
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vida~~orotraveltlaneo
following alternatives are
tives do not address the parking
a, Oak street should not be widenekn Otcthe north sl~detof Oak
Jag4e and nd Ave nue G,, par
be d after a finding by the;CitY Council
Street may
b, Between, On_street,p Council
thatrt aff sic £uchiow, would be in the grkingst on of g the 'afseouth . and. side o£his
section of Oakshould bike lanelill this section isein the' V unless finds th'a't placing maximizing the transportation
public interest by streets.
capabilities of existing
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c, Oak Street should not be widened and existing parking should
not be eliminated.
NOTE* Policy option 3 may be amended to take into account
non-residential areas with on-street parking,
f: 3. In addition to the travel lanes, parking that is allowed on both
sides of Oak and Hickory Streets should be-allowed`to remain oil
both 'sides , except as follows a) where multi - family development
in excess of 10 units per acre or 'non-residential development
r exists. On-street parkingg may be eliminated on the 'side o' the
street with such a multi- family or non-residential area.
t Policy option b could be added to 3 as follows;
3. In addition to the travel lanes, parking that is allowed,on both
i sides of Oak and Hi'ckory` Streets should b6 allowed to remain on
I i both sides, except as follows a) where multi-family development
in excess of 10 units per acre or non-residential development
exists, On-street ' parking may be eliminated on the side of the
street with such a multi-family or non-residential area,
b. Between Jagoe and Avenue O, parking on the north side of Oak.
Street may be removed after.a findiing by;the.City Council
that such would be in the interest of safe and efficient
traffic flow. On-street parkingg'on.tbe south side, of. this
section of Oak`should.not be.elimi'nated unie3s the'Council
1 finds that placing a bike lane in this section is in the.
public interest by maximising the transportation
capabilities of existing streets.
RECOMMENDATION
Staff recommends the following policy:
1) Oak Street between Bonnie iirae'and Carroll' Boulevard should not
1 be wider than allowing for two travel lanes plus on-:street parking
in selected Areas and/or bike lanes in selected areas.
2) Hickory; Street from Carroll Boulevard to Welch Street.should;be
no wider than allowing three travel lanes and on-street parking on
one side of Hickory Street and/or bike lanes.' Hickory Street from f
Welch to Bonnie Brae should be no wider than allowing two travel
lanes and on-street parking and/or bike lanes.`
3) In addition to the travel lanes; parking that is allowed on both E
sides of Oak and Hickory Streets should be allowed to remain on both f;
sides, except as `follows: a) where multi-family development in
excess of 10 units per acre or non-residential: development exists
On-street parking may be eliminated on the side of the street with i_
such a multi-family or non-residential area. b) Between Jagoe and
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Avenue G parking on the north side of Oak Street mayybe removed`
after a finding by the City Counr,il that such would be in the
interest of safe and efficient t:affic flow. On-street parking on
the south side of this section of Oak should not be eliminated
unless the Council finds that placing a 'bike lane in this 'section is
in the public interest by maximizing the transportation capabilities
of existing streets,
(Adopted , 1988)
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PROM: Prank H. Robbins,; Executive Director for !
Planning and Development
j SUBJECT: Oak Hickory, Thoroughfare Plan Policy
The Planning and Zoning Commission discussed the following
which would be added to the Denton Development Plan: policies
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The Denton Development Plan is amended
by adding the following to
1 the Long ange oroug are Plan Notes: I
5. 'Thoroughfare Plan Notes
b, Specific (ree'er to map on page 53)
7) Oak and Hickory Streets
it is recognized that the Historic District along Oak and Hickory
Streets is one o£ Denton's most valuable and sensitive neighbor-
hoods, is a source of community pride, and is an area whose historic E
character should be protected and preserved. Protection 'and preser- ;
vation of the character created by the homes:in the areA along Oak I'
Street and not within the Historic District should"also be
accomplished.
Accordingly, the following polic as are destgped.to protect and '
enhance the neighborhood charAc er of the area along Oak and Hickory
Streets between Bonnie Brat and Carr oll"Boulevard,
1) Oak Street between Bonnie rat and Carroll Boulevard should not
be wider than allowing for tw travel lanes plus,on-street parking,
2) Hickory Street from Car'ol1 Boulevard to Welch Street shouid'be
no wider than allowing thre travel lanes and 'on-street parking on
one side, of Hickory Street Hickory Street from Welch to Bonnie
Brae should be no wider t an allowing two travel lanes and on«street
parking,
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3) In addition to tho travel lanes, parking that is al Iowed `on both
sides of Oak and Hickory, Streets should be allowed to remain on both
sides, except where multi-family development in excess of 10 units
per acre exists, On-street parking may be eliminated on the side of
the street witn such a multi-family area,
(Adopted 1988}
PRo'rhCTfiU TREES
The Planning and Zoning Commission had previously approved a tree
protection plan for Oak and hickory Streets which 'would 'allow
F improvement of these two streets within the existing "footprint" of
4 the street's pavement and gutter, This "footprint" alternative
protected the 'largest number of "protected trees" defined by the
1 Landscape and Tree Preservation Ordinance as 10 inches or greater in
diameter, at four feet above the ground.
ON-SUERT PARKING
' The Planning and zoning Commission had previously noted that
on=street parking for (low density) homes should remain, and that
idea was incorporated into the above stated policy.
Staff has noted that preserving on-street parking on Oak between I
Jagoe and Avenue G would necessitate yidQAng. thos.txe.e.t i."erg t
safety nshiiue-dcsf°gn-`5'tYidard"s'were applied to oak's reconstruc
t 1 minating parking from 7 or 8;00 a.m. to 5 or 6)00 p.m. has i
not been. discussed,
There has been` only li lited discu~s~sion of, replacing ons-+.~" eet
4 parking with bike lajng or wider}%ing an o alloyior rive o
3 eight foot wide bikd lanes, 1'2,-street" bike,.4anes re no e t nal
1 but +ady'be approp ate, A'd ermi tion fo bike,la e p vis' n
I h'er~' is necessar ly `a Tutu decd ion re' w ng m e s dy a d,
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On Oak street." between Ja oe/Avenue C.
way traffic, parking on both sides of the street, and "street sec-
ti"ons" (width of pavement,curb, and gutter) in molt places from 36
to 37 feet wide. Staff suggested that for safety and potential
liability reasons that when Oak is reconstructed that a) on'street
parking on one side of Oek be removed, allowing construction within
the "'footprint" or b) the street section be widened to 41 feet' <
allowing parking on both sides, Staff: suggested that a 36 to 37
11 foot section could be unsafe for a secondary arterial street with
i two moving lanes and on-street parking on both sides. Diagrams of ;
the a);37', 2 lane, I parking side and the b) 41,1, 2 lane, 2
parking sides sections are attached, '
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Staff is recommending that rVtonstructio be e in t tootepr
and that parking be removed from one si. e of to roe probably J
the north side,
SUMMARY 9P ISSUES
f' 1. Protection of Oak and Hickory ( ow density residential
k neighborhoods,
( 2, on-street parking; where, for hom, and when. G
Y 3, Travel lane width and street it affic capacity.
4. Safetconsiderations and liabi ity, Is the City liable A 1J) {
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does not use proper design when Greet reconstruction is do ?
Or, does the "Friction" of on -str t parking cause lower sped I-
5. Tree pre ervation ~~,i~
6 Bike lanes. f'riti G+~~S1 eW- F t-
RECONSTRUC'S'TUN ALTERNATIVES BETWEEN JAGOE AND AVENUE G ON OAK STREET
~ 1. Existing footprint, on-street parking on two sidest i
' 2, Existing footnrint, on-street parking on one side (yDa~ti f
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3. Wider street, on-street parking on two sides
a, widening would be from S,5 to4feet for a 41 foot section.
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` b, In order to preserve trees, most of the widening would be
accomplished on the south We of Oak.
POLICY LANGUAGE ALTERNATIVES
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In addition to the'above policy langua e, numbered 1, 2, and 3, the
following alternatives are provided,; some of the following alterha-
tives do not address the parking and/or travel i"ane issues directly;
a. Oak Street should not be widened,
b. Between Jagoe and`AVenue G, parking on the north side of Oak
Street may be removed after a finding by.the City Council
,that such would be in the Interest of safe and efficient
traffic flow, On-street parking on the south side of this
section of Oak should not be eliminated unless the Council
that 'placing a bike lane in this section is in the
fc s interest by maximizing the transportation
ili ties. of existing streets..,
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c, Oak Street should not be widened and existing parking should
not be eliminated,
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NOTE; Policy option 3 may be amended to take into account
nou-residential areas with on-street parking.
3. In addition to the travel lanes, parking that Is allowed on both
sides of oak and Hickory Streets should be allowed to remain on
both sides, except as follows a) where multi family development
in excess of to units per acre or non-residential development
exists. On-street parking may be eliminate on the side of the
street with such a multi-family or non-residential area.
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Policy option b could be added to 3 as follows:
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4 1 E 3. In addition to the travel lanes, parking that is allowed on both
sides of Oak and `Hickory Streets should be allowed to remain on
both sides, except as follows a) where multi-family development
in excess of 10 units per acre or non-residential development
f exists, On-street parking may be eliminated on the side of the y
street with such a multi-family or non-residential area.
b. Between Jagoe and Avenue G, parking on the north side. o£ Oak
j Street may be removed after a finding by the City Council
that such would be in the interest of safe and efficient
j traffic flow, On-street parking on the south side of this
section of Oak should not be eliminated unless the Council
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finds that placing `a bike lane in this section is in the
public interest by maximizing the transportation +
capabilities of existing streets.
RE`OMMHNDATION
Staf€r ecommends the following policy;
l.) 'Oak Street between Bonnie Brae and Carroll Boulevard should not I
be wider than allowing for two travel lanes plus on-street parking
in selected areas and/or bike lanes in selected areas.
2) Hickory Street from Carroll Boulevard to Welch Street should be
no wider than al`lowing' three travel lanes and on-street parking on
one side of Hickory Street and/or bike lanes. Hickory Street from
Welch to Bonnie Brae should be no wider than allowing two travel
i 1 lanes and on-street parking and/or bike lanes,
3) In addition to the travei'lar^s, parking that is allowed on 'both
sides of, Oak and Hickory Street., should be allowed to remain on both
sides, xcept as follows: a;, where multi-family development in
excess of 10 units per acre or non-residential development exists,
On-street parking may be eliminated on the side of the street with
such a multi-family or non-residential area. b) Botween`Jagoe and
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Avenue G, parking on the neTA61 side of Oak Street may be romoved
after a finding by the City Council that such would be in the
interest of safe and efficient traffic flow. On-streot'parking on
the sor~ th side of this section of Oak should not be eliminated
" unless/the Council finds that 'placing a bike lane i.n this section is
111 t public interest by maximizing the transportation capabilities
ofcisting streets.
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} Residents NN
4 Oak Street, between Jagoe and Avenue G M GERSOFfI0
Denton, TX 76201
f 1 Dear: Oak Street k2esiderlt! ;
The City will hold another informational meeting, Thursday, r
Novawber 170 1988, at 7:00 P.A. at City Hall to discuse the Oak
Scre'et reconstruction project'. The project will include -rebuild-
ing oak Street from Carroll goulevatd to Bonnie Brae. The, project 1
will include the installation of new storm sewers as well as new
curbs, gutters and pavement. The purpose of the meeting will be
to peovide_you with information and to solicit your input on t
parking needs, travel lanes and tree preservation.
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I f PrevlouelV, the staff has suggested to the Pianninq and toning
f !I Commission that parkinq,on one side of oak should be teMoved in
the e area between Jagoe/],venue c and.Avenua 0 in order' to build a
treet, yet keep from widening Oak Street, "We would
like to disouss this with you, as well as the alternatives for
protecting your neighborhood and this street rebuildinq project.
We are looking forward to seeing you there. It you cannot be
there, please feel free to call me at 566-8350 with any of your
questions.
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rank Rob ine, 4~lCP
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Ms, Helen Sarvis ;
1823 West Oak Street I
Denton, TX 76201 f
Dear Ms. Sarvis:
Thank you for your letter of September 26, 1988, regarding the
Oak-Hickory Street project, j
As I am sure you are aware, the Oak.-Hickory Street project was
included in a bond issue which was approved by Denton voters a
few years ago, Both of these streets do need repair, and
everyone is looking forward to getting this project completed,
On the other hand, it is important that these' street, projects
be completed In such a way ;so as not to disiract,fron the
d cultural assets of the neighborhood.
I'mport4nt historical an,
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Therefore, the construction' plans are now, beingreviewed by the
planning and Zoning Commission and the Historic' Landmark
Commission prior to being returned to the 'City Council for
their final determination.
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LJ You do have my pledge that we will try to complete these
projects in such a way as to not diminish this important
community asset.
If 'I can provide any further information, do not hesitate to
'contact me.
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Very truly yours,
Ray Stephens
Mayor
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September 26, 1968
Mayor Rdy Stevens and
Members of the City Council
215 East McKinney
Denton, Texas
Gentlemen:
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subjects Proposed Change of West Oak and West
Hickory Streets from Residential to Major Access
between the Expanded Airport industrial area and
the City of Denton
The City's proposal to downgrade the established neighbor-
hoods along 'West -Oak and West Hickory Streets and their
! acknowledged historical' and cultural assets should be
reconsidered `
such downgrading will result in the downgrading of the
City itself and in the loss of features which make the city
unique and different from other towns,
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'Downgraded neighborhoods, bereft of former advantageso
result not only in blighted areas with escalating and.
costly social probletr<s, but result in tax losses to the
E city,
{ i urge your reconsideration of this proposed action and
your assurance of the preservation of established and
acceptable; neighborhoods. ;
Sincerely,
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and
Parks and Recreation board
September 28, 1988
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A work session of the Planning ana Zoning Commission and the Parks
and Recreation Board of the City of Denton, Texas w111 be hold on
Wednesday, September 28, 1988, at 5,00 p.m., in ttre Civil Defense
Room of the Municipal Building.
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Agenda
Planning and Zoning Commission
September 28, 1988
The regular' meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission of the
City of Denton, Texas will be held on Wednesday, September 280 1988,
at 5:4S p. m., in the Council Chamber of the Municipal Building,
1, Approval of minutes of the regular meeting of August 31, 1988.
T1. Consent Agenda
teach of these items is recommended by the staff and approval
thereof will be strictly on the basis of the staff recommenda-
tion.Approval of the consent agenda authorizes the Executive
Director for Planning and Development or his designee to proceed
i { with each item in accordance with the staff recommendation. 1
A. Approval of preliminary and final plats of Logan Addition, ;
Lot 1, Block A.
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Addition, Lot 11 Block A.
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Co Approval of final plat of Denton High Skkhool No, 2
Addition, Lot 2, Block A.
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Ill. Public Bearings
A. Z48-010. Consider Making, A recommendation, an the.,petition
{ j -OT-Mal e Irwin requesting approval of a detailed-plan and
proprty Is ment,currently zoned planned~deve 01) 168 of a planned development ebneiitlpnn na ,i4et. The
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two-family (2•F) zoning district, ;►'he property is,;located
on the east side of Carroll Boulevard between Prairie Street }
and Highland Street. If approved, the property may be
utilized for office use, I
B. Z-88.021, Consider making u recommendation on, the petition
of g'Cepiela interestst Inc. requesting an amendment to
Planned Developmont-6: and approval of a detailed plan on
5,7 acres. The property is located along the,north'side,
of wilderness Street, the east side of'Timberidge Street,
and the west side of;kenwood Str.oet, The property is part
I of the Mary Austin Survey Abstract No, 4, and the R. H,
! Hopkins Survey, Abstract lo. 1604, and is included in The
Woodlands of Township 11 Addition, If the detailed plan is
approved, the property may be developed into single Family
lots with 61800 square feet.
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IV. Considerations
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A. Make a recommendation on preliminary replat of Lots 1-23
to lots 1R-16R and Lots 42-43 to Lots 42R-51R, Block A,
The Woodlands of Township 11.
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B. Make a recommendation on proposed fee for downzoning,of JJ
ii uon-residential zoning districts where residential uses 1
exist,
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C. Make a recommendation on the sale of city owned property
located at the northeast corner of North Locust and Peach
streets. (D-43)
D. Make a recommendation on proposed annexation of approxi !
mately 135 acres located south of Mills Road, east of
Mayhill Road, and north of McKinney Street adjacent to }
existing city limits, '(A-SS)
R. Consider a, plan to remove protected trees along Hickory i
and Oak streets In conjunction with street improvemeatsl
P, Consider a plan to remove protected trees in conjunction !
E with proposed temporary drainage relief project for
l Alexander/Bailey street area. I
V. Set Planning and Zoning Commission meeting dates for November
and December, 1988, I
VI. Director's Report
Proposed Transportation Committee
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SUdJdC'1': Oak and Hickory Street Project -t
Thursday night, we held a "neighborhood meeting" for input from
all the residents and businesses on Oak and Hickory Streets,
r The discussion and the urpose of the meeting was to provide
information to the neighborhood on the amount of trees that
would be taken if we used a 371 section, The discussion began
t I to be centered around the trees and additional discussion on
the appropriateness of the lane width and use of the street
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I~ There were approximately 35-40 people in attendance,, and the
l ! discussion lasted for an hour and a half. There were many
questions asked, and a number of statements made, Most of the
comments centered around leaving as many trees as possible and j
also leaving Oak Street at its present width. The residents in r
i, the Historical District preferred two lanes of traffic with one
W lane of parking, and the residents west of Avenue -C preferred
to, have parking on both sides and one lane of traffic in both
` directions.
There were a_few commonta made on Hickory Street that centered
i; mostly around parking or the access for businesses in that j
area. The comments on parking centered mostly on the area west
of Avenue C. There were at lAast two people that asked that r
the parking be altered so that more site distances could be
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4. to reposition the parking on the south side of Hickory` between
Avenue G and Avenue G 'rather than on the north side.
There were also a couple of comments about the, side streets
particularly Miller Street, The residents asked that the stall
. remove some of the parking on Miller to make it 'less congested
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At the end of the meeting, 1 asked for a show of hands, and the
group voted 34 to 3 to leave the basic "footprints" of. the
j gut4er lines intact on Oak Street, That -would mean that Oak
would vary in width from 34 114' tit Carroll, to 35' at Denton
Street, to 36' from Mounts to Bryan, back to 35, and 35 ;1/2' t
Avenue B to Normal back to 36' from Avenue C to Milder anad
then varied from 3'' to 42' west of Headley, They also said
I that they want to leave Hickory at the width it is and In the
same kinds of operations, Finally, included in their vote was
a statement that every effort should be made by the staff to
save any and all the trees on Oak And Hickory,
As mentioned earlier, the reason for bringing
i to P Z is because of the new Tree PreservationrOrdinance.
The ordinance says that all Capital Improvement Projects shall
f be designed and constructed to protect the trees to the degree
that is reasonably passible, We are to submit. to P
information as to what protected trees' would be of£ected~ by
projects, and P fi 2 is to make a recommendation to the Council
-a as to whether the project removes protected trees unnecessarily,
! 1 I have included for you backup, some minutes and previous
recommendations that the staff has made 'to Council when these
two projects were being discussed. Obviously, our
recommendations were based on the fact that the Transportation
Plan shows both Oak and Hickory as secondary arterials, our
no rmaI standard for secondary arterial sections is a four lane
median divided structure, From the outset StaEE
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ways to reduce widths to make the projects more economical
and to still carry the loads suggested by the Transportation
1 Plan, We tries to look at options that would reduce the width'
and at the Jame time try to carry significant amounts; of
traffic, This was based on the fact that North Texas, is
continuing to grow, and in the Denton Development Plan, there
was an attempt to define a major intensity area west of 1-35
LJ with one of the major access points being Oak Street and the
Oak Street underpass,
After the Tree Preservation Ordinance was approved by Council,
the staff went back and looked again at these two projects,
f because of the need to try to ;preserve trees, we tried to look
at alternatives that would narrow the street even more, in our
last meetings with the Council, we suggested a 371 section,
This section is a little bit wider in some portions of Oak
Street, We have included a list showing the various widths on
- Oak and Hickory and the percentages of the street that each one
of these represents.
The 37' section was choson to allow for some future' options
should North Texas continue to grow and the high intensltZ area,
west of I-35 begin to develop, The 37' oection would allow two
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lanes of traffic in one direction or in both directions on both
Oak and Hickory, It would also provide enough room for one
lane of parking on each of these streetsAt a later time, the
371 sections could allow alterations to be made to Oak and
t? Hickory to provide one-way access on each of these streets all
the way to Bonnie Brae, In time, the configurative could even
be changed to three lanes in each direction If development and
the loading on the streets necessitated it, This is the reason
the staff chose the 37' section and suggested it to the council.
If the 37' section is used, seven troos`l'arger than 10" will be
} effected on Uak. and will have to be removed, We would also ,
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and two 6 trees, We would also be relocating, some crepe
myrtles and other bushes along the street. There is also a f
chance that two other trees would have to be moved depending on
how the root systems lie in conjunction with the -street, Our
37' section on Hickory Street would not require any tree
f removal,
If the recommendation of the neighborhood is followed there
are several, issues thatthe staff is concerned about, iln.the z
sections that are currently two lanes one-way with parking,
there will be lanes `that are narrower than our standard ~
iequiremunts, Also, these kind of sections will obviously not
give any options for future use unloss they are striped, in
substandard ways. In the area west of Avenue G, since the ;
widths continue to be narrow, this will even be more E
amplified, A normal section for parkingg on both sides with one
Iona of traffic in each direction is 41', As you can see from
the listing) there is only one small section that is wider than
the 41t section and all the rest of it will be 3-51 narrower
than it should be, Again, this would cause moving traffic to
I be forced closer to parked vehicles, and there would be some
i safety considerations that should be addressed,- The same kinds
of concerns for future options would be present on Hickory from
Avenue G to Welch, 1i
In conclusion, P,A Z must make a decision or recommendation `to
i the Council on the projects and their relationship to the
I amount of tree removal. In addition to that, the neighborhood
is seeking some changas in the status,of Oak Street, The staff
is concerned about these recommendations In comparison to our
normal street standards, if Planning and Zoning; would like us
to proceed with the neighborhood recommendations, then the
staff would recommend that changes be made to the
i Transportation plan to downgrade both Hickory and Oak to some
other status, We would also suggest that In areas where
parking is desired on both sides a 41' section should be
ooked at, The other alternative Is to look at a 371 section
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for both of these facilities that would allow movements to
exist as they do now from Avenue C east, It would allow for
two lanes of travel plus a: parking, lane on both £acilitios`from
Avenue C west, The staff recommends this second 'alternative
because it provides for safe movements of traffic and tWows
options for the future,
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DATE: September 230 1988
fi SUBJECT; Trees on Oak Street ,
i On your Wednesday might agenda, there is an item to review the
Oak Street paving project and its relationship with the removal
of trees. Last night, we had a neighborhood meeting to receive
input from the neighborhood. We are attempting to take that I
{ input and look at solutions or %lays;to incorporate their input
and/or to look at future needs for the City. We will be tying
to put that information together in the next day, or two and we
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ff Thank you for your letter of September 1S, 1988, rovid
information regardin the i
S Oak-Hickory Street protect, P ng
First let me assure
that the City staff yosuveand the other
sensitive1tobthe of the Commission
special nature _
our Historic District and will be very cautious with any City
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improvement project which effects, this neighborhood,
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Hopefully, we 'have proven to your Commission and others'by our
past actions and recommendations the comsifinent- which the City
staff has to this Important area of Denton,
Regarding the Oak Street project, the actions taketa.by the city
staff to date have been directed to 1101ting the Amount of
LJ widening, which takes place ofi oak and Hickory a~t d in turn
protect the trees and the character of the`neighbol,6od, As l
am `sure you are aware, a decision was made approcimately two
years ago to build Hickory Street as a 451 section with the Oak
i project to be similarly ddesignod at some future date, In the
interim, the area was proclaimed as a. historic district and the
tree preservation ordinance was
act Ions prompted the City staffp tobaskythebCituncil, These
reconsider the width question ` regarding thesey woG street
projects, Rather than proceeding with the 45~
wdesch
ould have had an extremely detrimental effectigon whthe
neighborhood, the City staff proposed thattwo other arterial
dest n standards be considered, One standard was a 411
section, and the other alternative which was recommended 'b
Staff and selected by the Council y the
was a 37 , font standard;
Although the 451 section is the typical width for arterial
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streets, it was £eIt that the lesser 37~ _width would be
satisfactory because of the one way cuupiets of Oak and
Hickory, I provide this history only in hopes of demonstrating
a;similar commitment as yours of protecting this important area
of our community and working to mitigate any unfortunate side
effects from the street improvement project,
Please be assured that the street design process has only just
begun, and the Engineering Department has not yet begun their
work. Before that design will be presented to the Council,
neighborhood input will be sought, the matter will be taken
before the Planning and Zoning Commission in connection with
the tree preservation policy, and the Historic Landmark
Commission will be consulted in accordance with Section 2SA-14
(b) of the Historic Landmark Ordinance,
At this point, 1 have asked our City staff to determine the
exact number of trees, which, would be disturbed by expanding the
roadway to 37' and to obtain new traffic count figures, These
actions will be taken prior to proceeding with the
presentations to the Planning and Zoning Commission and your
commission, In addition, neighborhood sessions will commence
f this week to get additional fnput which may be helpful to us as
we start the design process for the roadway,
As I` know you are aware, a 371 roadway would involve expandin 3
Oak Street In the Historic District from 'between 1 to 2,75
feet, If that decision is ultimately made extreme efforts
wil'l' be expended to save all trees possible within the district
and throughout the project, and we are confident that almost
t all can be retained, We should have exact numbers later in the
process,
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Our lEngineering staff does not fe431 that a street width of 34'
is adequate to support two one-way traffic lanes and a parking'
lane, If parking remains, It is preferable that the lanes be
12 to 12,5 wide as is the case with our collector streets,'
However, I have asked our staff to examine any alternative
which might allow a narrower street which could still
effectively move traffic.
Mike, the City staff does not have any `type of vested interest
as to the outcome of this ,discussion regarding he nature of
these two streets,
However, it is important that the
implication of all decisions made at this point are reviewed
with all of our policy making boards so thnt proper long' range,
Planning can occur for the benefit of the community, You have
my personal assurances that we will work with your commission -
and others to receive as much input as possible as we strive to
make `a decision which will beneNt as many Denton citizens as
possible.
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September 23, 1988
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Thank you for providing me with your views cn this matter, Our
# staff looks forward to working with
' your commission and others
in the weeks ahead as we proceed with the design of this
1 important street project.
4ty my yours,
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Rick SVehia, Deputy City Manager
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Denton, Tani 76201
m; Oak-Hickoryirtrbet pavfngpruject
D ar Lloyd,
1 As Vu are no doubt mm we on the MC ere intereetnd fn the decision
to repave %uul widen Wee thk; Sheet thmug% the Hestoaic~ r
d-"Jmdm ~q 912 , at the Meeting of the WZo we had Wendve
v mAmniftg MMY UPOCtl Of this pm~ad
Pmdk!t6MY tim" wm " opinions °a. in „ing itfim , of this pa,ojerl, to the pkn
j } Pmdicte,~tytim" wm $ opin"
Cpnrert rres thequ oat lost tn" and Of the wisdom of wide~nin$'of Ck Tc qt.
tbr»u~ ► the airteirt~
The vote was urunimaus to (1) dace a this wrtioru (2) to question why the
1 MW WAS not rpetW dly WOW In Advance of the OW and (3) to urge the
0teerins Depwftuett to work up a poptwwl for converting Ceek &a Rao, into
1 `are'a`
~fn the $tstt "WOM we noted that the rtandW width fixate aaro• try
C 1 late ie ll fl, with 9 ner wary brA parkinglane,
~ ~ le Tres further noted tt►a~tyis u the s
inlentieu of the city to
h n latsss. At ib ' meet r t aosaft urwfiat of two trri~r a w orw+ ,
l gg a ?nazmwroN point OSt Is 34 A wide and tlwavfm mots th"
adeq~ute b hanRile the hater load e~ hdpaW in the tw+ewwewble futuml
tea the TA" W of notiilation, let mg dlr+xt you to Section AA44 of the ;
Hisomie Lendnit& Odium fin which iit spiciftedly, Eb)
ill* no pub& l h but not limited too Obw
roa►ttru,cHono ONN etc, shall be made within or aftfts a histortr ms) ;
district without appaova of the dty munril if* rarocrhendation has
eittad bq the kAdmark nom mieedon and appropriate dty
Cbviousiy, this it of great ronrern to us OW ft would hope that this gentle
reminder will keep thb fry happening a yin,
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point agsln to Section 28A-14 (f) b of the Historic Landmark Ard#r Ghee, entitled
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" The commiattan may review the transit and traffic oprrations in
and through. the district and prvvide recommendations to the urban
transpo tation department and city council on mutes, schedules, one-
way and two-way street patterns „l Ott.*
It is a matter of public policy and the belief of the HIL, that the hf stork district
is an important element community pride and therefore w of I protection.
It is our duty and mission to ensure thAt the fragile quality =n ghbcn hood be
protected from incursions of any description,
WideninggLk)c St. throe the will bath encourage tauter trrtlt.r and
diminish the un6que visual quality of the area by removing s5m4e of the fine old trees.
These effects in tandem will cause a further erasion of the residential nature of the
district that we, by city mandate are sworn to protect,
A largerupeci of this issue is the question of the future of Oak Street, It is my
' j understanding that although the current request is for a 37 ft, width to wxy two h%ft
and one pAlig lanes, there are pions to convert Oak and Hickory into a 6 Une
j couplet from the to the interstate ene~y~ar
V mat planIe incorporated mbd uic~policy through the Denton
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Development Plan then it is feeling that t should be discwired rpeci#iwlly and
say that the ` might he sale to respond and of br input,
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' f this present move to widen the street it but incremaW sip toward the
~pel of having three tragic and one g loner thmu the Historic I5lshict, am it
islls shoat of the mark, The 37' widfh is not wide anau toaccamoom thin gpal, My
nuerticm to you it thin are the web worth the liabilities Is the extra T worth the
t t additlo W expanse in both money and in the Ions of irreplaceable natural features that
the council her so recently sworn to protect?
In the Development plan them is a classification faor Azeas which ors
deemed "fflq of receiving, consider fife. SpKifiN mentioned and ;
"naidentitl gh>lotrboods, b~ic landmarks, site of vas architectural
heritage, (&M) sites mooted to the corwerwtion of natural rosour m (treesy
We believe that the the OA-Mck Historic I HsbW Is worthy of this fpedal
tr satmea t utd that that spodal status rho id be d into so that
we will not have to fight this battle a ~ Witb~~turebof the ~ $Mured,
} plmnenr will than be able to fat on with the badness of develop i tg ling *Agp
trsn"twe plus with emphasis on more eeetive solutions to the quenion of arl•
i west arterials.
Hopefully this an be resolved before it to council,
You"'
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7hru; Lloyd V. Harrell, City Manager
From; Harry N.-Persaud, Urban Planner
i{ Subject., Oak-Hickory Historic District
WhOn City Council considered the Forking Intensity Map at the
i 86ptelmber 20th meeting, Councilman Boyd raised a question with
respect to a moderate activity center, in the vicinity of the f
0 k-Hickory Ills orir District, Mr, ,6nyd ez`resso'd concern about
the type of lan USF16 that may potent ally ocate in a moderato ,
I activity center tha; will conflict with the need for preservation i
to the Historic District,
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We would now like to add some clarification to this question, it►e
Oal;-Hickory Historic District is outside of the moderate activityy
center shown on the 'Working lntonsity Map, Please see the attached
map.showing the Historic District north of Hickory Street and the
moderate activity center south of Hickory Street.
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Dean Hickory or Oak Street Resident; t
The City is holding an informational meeting, Thursdayy
f September 2,2, 1988, at 7:00 p,m, at City Hall to discuss the,
Hickory and Oak projects, The projects will include rebuilding
Oak Street from Carroll BouleYard to Bonnie Brae and Hickory f
S,Creot from Welch to Bonnie Brae, The projects will include
the installation of new storm sewers as well a3 new curbs t
gutters and pavement, The purpose of the meeting will be to i .
provide you with information v..nej to solicit your input on i
parking needs, travel lanes and tree preservation,
We are looking forward' to seeing you there, if you cannot be
there, please feel free to call me at 566.8307 with any of your
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As you may be aware, there Is going' to be some reconstruction
of Oak Street from Carroll to Bonnie Bree, and of Hickory from Bonnie
Brae to Welch, This construction will involve drainage, water, sewer,
I street width, tree removal
your ;business, ti Parking and other Issues that may affect
1 n addition, the method and timing of the construction
itself will be an Issue that you will want to understand,
The city has not yet determined which specitlcations to use for
any of this construction and Is seeking your Input at a meeting to be
I held from 7:00 to 9100 p.m, at City Nell on Thursday, September 22,
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We urge you to attend this meeting and will be there as a chamber
to assist you In and the city in this matter.
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T0; Historic Landmark Commission
I - NROMI Frank Robbins, Executive Director for Planning and
Development
a SUBJECT: AG>NDA ITEM 11,1 PROPOSAL TO WIDEN OAK AND HICKORY
STREETS
The packet mailed to you on October,5, 19880 included Agenda -
a Itom II, "Consider making a recommendation on the proposal to
widen Oak and Hickory Streets," ;
f Staff is requesting that we pull consideration of this item I
( from the Agenda because staff has not completed the drawings
for that work.
'file Com>ission may want to discuss this steal, but staff is not
t prepared to make a, presentation about the road construction
work in"the Historic District. Staff will be coming to.the
Commission at a future date with plans and an amendment to the i
Donton Development Plan concerning the roads through the
district.
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Section 28A-14, Historic districts defined; restrictions
imposed therein; criteria for district boundaries established;
requisites for applications for districts set North; criteria for
evaluating same provided; district preservation plans
defined; miscellaneous administrative requirements of land.
mark commission set forth; procedure for modification of
ordinance provisions established,
(a) Definition. Districts which may be designated historic
landmarks pursuant to Section 2BA-1 shall herein be
referred to as "historic districts" and shall mean
geographically definable areas possessing significant ,
concentration, linkage or continuity of buildings,
structures, sites, areas or land which are united by
architectural, historical, archaelogical or cultural
j Importance or significance,
(b) Restrietiontr All buildings, structures, sites, areas or
lands located within a designated historic district,
whether Individually designated historic or not, are
subject to these regulations. No person or entity shall
construct, reconstruct, alter, change, restore, remove or
demolish in any way the exterior features of such
E building, structure or site, area or land until a permit,
( has been granted by the building official of the City of
Denton, F'urthertnore, rao pUl~
_lla 1100070asessta ipoiwl.
' ing, but ~ net limited to, etraet cohitructic,y;
lighting,. sidewalk :ftftstructloo, p06 ANOtlesr agsi
traffic. pyst*m changes, osapt trafflaeotf a sipm
and devim4 sball be grade withip!,or 46** tlyc
historic, distriotawit)tout a+t+owl'cf the;;oity oavssei!
after reeonsntendatbn has
. been agbraitted . #q► .the
landmark cothmission >mW .apprgpdaw off, dept
{ -Msnt_s,
(f) Diserict preservation play. The district preservation ~
plan' shall include, but shall not be limited to tine
followings
(1) zoning classification of uses. The cow
may examine the us" existing within the district
in terms of their individual and continued effect
upon the charaoter, safety, economic and physical
impact of the district and shay recommend such c
changes In xorilag► height and areal regulations,
(2) Building codo requirements. The commierlon nay
review and recommend any amendments to the ,
building regulations it feels noes" M to preeer"
the architectural and historic Integrity amd
authenticity of structures within each such
districts
(3) Sign regulations, The commission may review the
provisions of the sign reguistiotur that say
permissible within each such district and reoc a•
mend such alterations In rise, location, type end
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construction thby feel appropriate. In preparing
such recommendations, the commission shalt
consider existing erns as well as criteria for
future signs, In the event that an existing sign or
signs are deemed to have a negative impact on the
character of the district, the commission may
recommend a method of removal or improvement
of such sign or signs, reviewing such sign changer
with owners or tenants prior to such mcommenda•
tion.
(4)` Parking regulations, The commission racy review
the parking regulations in existence in the db triot
and recommend any changes in numbers or
location of on-street and ` off-street parking
requirement& it feels necessary to enhance the
distric-t. It shall review the adequacy of parking
facilities in or affecting the district and may offer
recommendations for such public and/or private
parking lots, garages or structures it deems to bt► 1
In the beet overall interest of the district.
(5) Architectwal regulations. As a guide for those
seeking, a certificate of appropriateness pursuant
to Section 2BA-8, the historic landmark aftalis.
lion may, in conformance with the applicable
i zoning claanification, height sad area limltattion,
and in keeping with the significant arohitecUmd,
' historical, archaeological or Cultural elements of
i each such district recommend regulations aKeo-
ting the exterior of the building includigg, but not
limited to, the follawipW
a. Acoaptable mater" for new construction
I such as stucco, may, nwW and glare
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b. A npropriate archltsctural character, scale and
detail for new construction;
c. Acceptable appurtanances to new and existing
structures such as gables, parapsts, balconies
and dormers;
d. Acceptable textures and ornawentation such
as paint colors and types, use of wood, atone,
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metal, plaster, plastics and other man-made
materials, use of shutters, wrought and cast
Iron, finishes of metal, colors of glass, such as
silver, gold, bronze, smoke, and other details
`s or architectural ornamentation,
i e. Acceptable accessories on new or existing
structures such as light fixtures, gas lights,:
canopies, exterior carpentry, tile or wood,
banners, flags and projections; and
f. For those proportiet which oare r ices, ti are",
lands, buildings, structures which are not of historical, architectural,
archaeological or cultural Importance, or val-
ue, development or redevelopment way be at
the owner's discretion as long as there is no
variance from the historic district preservation
E plan as to materials, scale and detail, appur-
t4nances, _textures, ornamentation and ee.
~rise, and the owner compiles with skis.
ting regulations. In these instances, no review
by the landmark commission would be re-
quired, .and no certificate of appropriateness
would apply. E
I (6) Transit and traffic operations. The commission
may review the transit and traffic operations in
' and through the district and provide recommenda-
tions to the w oan transportation department mid
City council as rautw, scWulas, oru•rray and
two-way street patunvN park and rise, ` shuttle
services and pedestrian facilities that will enhance
and pmmrve the character of the district,-
(4) Public improvements. TM laa~k01°'
nAy redpam w to the 'airy MM11 aoospWls
pablm Wom sad enrindoti g -desk l ~ inaludix~. street 1ig1►tinlt► " furniUn% sip",
~J tagdecapift v 'tow",m" 0 electric pu
and : r+irww'= at 1
sideW A W "sad y ,r at r!Ki a 1 Y
Wei: and eucb othek of. tls•:dihtriot
for enhanta m#%t'&i,pn
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MUNICIPAL BUILDING / CENTON, TEXAS 7820E / TELEPHONE (817) 560-8307
CITY' of V SNTON, TBXAS Office of the city MansgOr
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MEMORANDUM
DA'ih: September 1, L96b
T0,` Lloyd Harrell, City Manager
Rick Sveh]a, Deputy City Manager
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SUBJBCT1 Construction of Oak and Hickory Streets as Part of
the,CIP and the $10,000,000 Bond Issr.
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You may recall that Hickory has been put on hold for the, last
with Avenue C and because we
two knew y0aks andc Fry Streets pwere esch dialed for this year, Staff the ' suggested that the 191 Cthe ebrougi►t eto
the Counciln together
-the Oak and Hickory projects in order to save,costs# This recommendation was made to the
Council in April of this year by the 1,01 Committee,
in addition' to that, there was an eXte sides ussion icn tired y
with the council in October of 19851 Thi,
on the width or the ultimate section of Hickory Street, ThAte
was much discussion about the number of lanes and l~ the
fa12 of
E parking that should be allowed on HicV.ogy. o-
1986 , the Council ultimately' decide that the section~ ctian and consequentiyuan y
t remain very; close to the exiating se
ultimate W section was chosen.
Subsequent to that, the Council held lengthy. discussians in,
late spging and early this sui-over about beaus f icati A tend that `
role the City should lay in loading the community.
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discussion, the beautification ordinance was past. In that new
to olow if es are-
ordinance, there are procedures lansf toiplanningrf~e'Loning to be
i removed, they include bringing p
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1 we went back to our OW Street raliminax y
Consequently
designs and 6gan to look t, h
We gan tosses significant tree
effect the trees in the Hickory, the i f,
removal problems on Oak and in review obXem4i Ch, a wider ,
sections also " present significant p of Oak Street is in the)
coupled with the `fact that a Barge part
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Oak Hickory Streets
September 1, 1988
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Historical District, the pproblems with wider street sections
and the related access problems with building elevation in the
Avenue A and Fry Street areas of Hickory, have lead us to seek
4 some new guidance from the Council,
' Since Oak and Hickory are currently one way, the Staff also
feels it is important to look at these,' two streets together,
The ultimate development on the City's west side, activities at
f she University of North Texas and the effect of the ultimate
i section for these two facilities will determine in large part
what' kind of role these two streets play' in the future.
Because of their one way nature, we feel that sections should
be matched since traffic in one direction would cause
reciprocal traffic on the other at some other time of the day,
Given this history and the Staff's belief that. the sections
should be related, we have looked at three different street
widths. We, have attempted to list all the advantages and
disadvantages for each of these!
Alternate M1 (45' Back to Back) ,
This pavement allows for four through lanes ultimately or two
I through lanes and two extremely large - parking lanes
Immediately, A traffic lane is defined as a 11' through lane.
A parking lane is defined as a 8' wide parking area, '
Advantages Disadvantages
Takes the most trees (102
* Heat provides for the
I movemP:it of traffic(4 on Oak and '23 on Hickory),
thru lanes or 2 wide
thru lanes and two park- * Will not reach need for ul-
ing lanes. timate traffic movement
during fhcility life,
* Width and narrow H-O-W 1
would :make: major access and ;
design; problem in Pry and
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Avenue t4 area on Hickory. -
n Most expensive to build ;
($150,000 to $170,000 more
than 37' section.) and tree
replacement costs,
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Alternate N2 (4111)
' The 41' back to back street has the following characteristics,
' This allows for two through lanes and two properly sized
parking lanes, These again are based on 11' through lanes and
8' parking lanes. bxamples of this sort of street include
Strata Drive, Malone, Scripture,` etc,
Advantages Disadvantages
* Provides section to meet * Still takes many trees (64
existing needs, on Oak and 21 on Hickory).`
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Chea er.than ultimata
Narrown
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sectign (approximately
X50,000) and less tree problem at Fry and Avenue
on Hickory,
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* Still using major paving '
* Majority.of Hickory areas for parking.
Street (501) is, this
wide.
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Alternate B3 (371) i.
{ f j The 37' back to back street section allows for two throdgli
1 caries and one parking 2ankt, future possibilities ' in cl'tide
maintaining the existing two way pattern or 'someday converting
to a one 'way couplet, if you convert to two lanes in each
direction, our feeling 1s that caiyacity- created by that coupie`t j
would meet: Denton's needs for approximately 20 years. An
example of this type of street section is LocustStreet from
Sherman to Orr Street.
! Advanta es
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* Least amount of trees Narking eliminated on ono
taken (32 on Oak 4 5 on side of the street section.
Hickory) !
Least cost ($150)000 "to
170,000 cheaper than the
ultimata se(d60) and
tree replacement costs,.
1 * Most room for compatible
street width and building
ele~iattons, ' ~ ,
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Alternate Y3 (371) (Cont'd)
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Advantages Disadvantages
a Will meet existing_
Capacity needs; could be increased pi inth
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future.
* All of Oak is this wide
or narrower and 35t of
Hickory is this 'wide,
Summary
The above outlines the advantages and disadvantages of the
three road sections, The 37' seems to have no real 1
If disadvantages except for the fact that it could carry less ;
traffic in the future,
We have consulted with the county extension agent with relation !
to protection of trees. He; has
given us several .major ,
suggestions on how-to prevent damage to trees including pruning
of the trees, .working with the neighbors to insure that they f
„ water and fertilize to offset the damages; and showing" them how j
€ the pruning effects the 'root system. A critical area is being
( very careful not to. effect tho stab flization roots that i
maintain the stability of the major trees so that wind damage
would not occur. He feels that 2' distance between the litee !
subgrade stabilization and the trees. would allow the,trees ° to
hive with the pruning and other issues 'mentioned above. We
I will include these guidelines in thh specs and greatly stress
} the environmental considerations that a contractor bidding the
_project would have to 'give.
Pinally, the, cost savings in reducing the pavement by 4 foot in
width is about $80,000, This means the total difference i
between 37' and 45' could total about $150,000 to`$160#000.
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Hopefully, Tuesday evening the Council can direct Staff an to !
the width of the stroet'for the Oak and Hickory Project to
submit to Planning and Zoning for review.
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(3) Cul-de-sac. A street which terminates in a vehicular
turnrouOU.
(4) Estate Subdivision, A local street, without curb
An gutter, w ose sole purpose is to provide direct
access to single family lots of one acre or more,
each lot having 100 or more feet of street frontage.
(S) ?Local/Residential, A street whose sole purpose is
to r y residential access to abutting single family or two
ies. It is designed to
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stye no more than 5,000 vehicle tripe ..per day..
(6) Max inal Parallel Access. A street which is parallel
an a acent o an ar erial street. It is designed
to provide aocses to abutting propparties so that the
properties are sheltsrad from tha effects of the
r throegh traffic on the arterial street, or so that
I the £low of traffic on the arterial street is not
I impeded by direct driveway access from abutting
pproperties When used as u_ private drive, it shall
be referred to as a private parallel driveway."
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(7) Off-sits. Any street, other than a pertmeter street,
c extends beyond the boundary of the development.
t (B) Perimeter,, That portion of any street, of any
a asg Cation, abutting the boundary of the ;
developments
(9) Primary Arterial. A street, including freeways,
wWWOse min Pu p se is to 'sazva as a mayor route
into, out'of, or across the City or connect one or
more of the City's major activity eentersb These
streets are shown on the City's thoroughfare plan
and are usually located at least one mils apart.
(10) Seoodda4ry. Arterial. A street whose main purpose is
servo ed i eta or route from one area of the city
to another, 9A 6 Connection between, one primary
arterial to another, or to provide a major, route to
one or more of the City's moderato activity centers.
Those streets are shown on the City's thoroughfare
plan.
(U) VEHICLE TRIPS
Any requirement or design standard of this article which is
based upon or determined in accordance with a specified number
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SUOJhCT.- construction of Hickory street
Following the last meetin4i several of the (:ouncil wmbera F
asked us
previous to look at alternatives for Hickory Street. In ;
' back-up'rateriaY we had talkedabout parking lsues-and
raking the street one-way. Staff began looking at these
+ options in an effort, to follow the transportation plan as
developed in the Development Gulds, On the attached map
will see that Oak and Hickory Street fore a major arrtol
system for the conveyance of traffic east end Neat. You will
also note that these two btroets eYemtually coMbiae fate ono.
i street Ouk Street • which; leads (urther treat to t%o, iraoMay
asd an underpass at that juncture.' 1
further west toward the airport and it the I eYte on III
iotenaity area that has balm contsfasd fa the Devil "at
for the last five years. luA'edo even gout Plammi oV~Mtlt 641144
is corrsideriaa enUr 4 y tas
staff has always felt etau+ b cause*bl~tthe juncture god' osiftlll+
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overpass at 0S and the fntemsity des4Bratioms !q tkA aatMd ti r~
r City inadauide► thot thts will beeowe a ma/or elttraoo: te'rlte
n major conduit for east-; vt traffic '!sett tN „ .h'.
industrial area to the rest of the City4 This is I
street should be a major carrier and why wo',re leantra tonrata
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ens-way yolr state it is the most eff4ciert,
At the same ti"o. the staff is always aware of the a
coustrai is that we all face, because Oak amd NickerY►an off,
I ono blest: ymrt , acrd because lie krow that thy, of t
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Holt Ter, the one•w~~yyy couplet wet; lot t6e only solution that we
looued its The w0 lion shree bead issue provides us with
enough tundtng to build :ay of the (nllavins road sections$
Section Midih' Description
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3?' Three lanes ona,war
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370'45' Three lanes *he *way $50,000
(parking on north aide between
AVenue C and Avenue A) {
45' ultimately three lanes one-way $28,000
(conttnuauS parking ishe on ;
north tide)
{ 45' Two lrnes in each direction $0
(initially could allow for
! parking on both sides)
Bach of glare facllltlea has Sonia good Points ' 'nt• and bad points,
f the` 37 section alloNS us to carry a large number of vehicles {
efficiently. It would also reduce our cost the mast. On the
other hand, it makes no provision for parking At all to the
I weetern areas of Hickory* this may, be all right siaeg that is
mostly apartment buildiale and accommodations were made in '
their parktp facilities to provide for one and a half to two
I care per dwotlist unit. However, it does not address the needs
{ I of tbo resldepttAi Areas further to the east or the comlvorcial i
I} ea~terprisN Ntwran Ayenuo I and Avenue A.
The sec"d section thtt varies between 37' and 44' does allow
for parking between Avenue C and Avenue A. While tilt wouldbe
very similar to the existing pattern between Avenue C sad
Avenue A, it does not address toy needs for parking iurtlwr
west of Avenue Ca Incidentally, this WAS the initial
suggertloa to you several weeks aloe
i The next section is 45+0 however$ it would be built SoNowbat
dtffareht than we build our normal'Sections# It would 'allow 'us
to build three lanes, full depth asphalt, which would enable us
to carry any kind of traffic includiml heavy loads, we would
also build l' of this width as a thlo4or section that would be
usedonly for parking. In all likelihood we would suggest that
this lane be located on the north aids of Hickory for its A
entire lenstb. This addition would allow us to ultiftroly carry
three lanes of traffic in o" direction and allow parking on V
efficlat obi jar fora carryias traffic~Anda still eD"the t Gthi
demands for the parkins needs.
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Wrist#e,s. would 81144 us to but14'. fow traLlt t
~ • ;,lssssei trorMally'Are split to provide, two lanes to
direct la. Obviously this deed s.oti alloo, for as sy*%b k
,4 tra tit Orr~tmS Capability to one direction. :It also rsdiw?s
thsi jMs~ of carryimS capability because of 00 twritas
4► ts► Nrticulsrly the left-hand tors. noVoM$tsr aSs«,!Ast
lets e,f traffic. lattialiy this kilt aI fgst~y.
to provide Perkins o■ bat M Miyr~.'y t#iwt. rtk~t ,
wwewit, as the weeds Srew and' davelopmeat : eatt~ered to tie '
4 went, in all likelihood, a decision would have to bo' trade to '
1 reduce Rrktat in the future. When this occurred, the perktid
I capabtll'ttes would be eliminated from the facility.
Attar heert*S the discussions and concerns of the 4004611
staff has gone back and relooked at the options# Since there E• ~
seems to be a need for, parkial sloaS the entire loaSth of the
streeto staff would susSest siterustive 03. This would ai]ow
construction of a 39 section at full depth and am 8
the cons p
could obe a& adkand ari edsis a etwo-Maynsection With parkth
on one side. This alternative would also save us $3$000, In 'k
the summer of 1987, we will begin rebuildlas Oak Street sad a
similar section could be built. When both streets are
completed, the Couaett would then hays the option Of 'chsx in
the trafftc patterns in the area to a one-way couplet wkict
would still allow parking on one side of each street. We would
i then be able to most the demands of the future growtt to the
west side of the Cityy and still allow for parktaS for
commercial and residential needs of the Citises.n along these
new facilities.
F we will have a strip trap sad other intorVatiot► arstlable for
the Caunc11 at their usetiAtli we would` be happy to try and
answer any further questions at they might hare.
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City of Denton city Counoil Minutes
t Meeting of November 4, 1986
Page Seventeen
SECTION 1.
The Council of the City of Denton hereby declares Tuesday,
i Novembeof
, toe, be Mayors' D-Day in the War on Drugs in the
Cl rDelsn,ton1986Texa
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SECTION 110
That the citizens of the City of Denton, Texas participate
in our goal of -a drug-free City and a drug.-free AMario&,'
SECTION iii,
That this resolution shall become effective immediately
upon its passage and approval.
E PASSED AND APPROVED this the 4th day of November, 1986.
I I HAY STEPHENS, MAY
CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS
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A LOT A , I IT SEl;k1:7"y
I CITY. OP DENTUN, TEXAS
APPROVED A$ TO LEOAL PUR.41
DEBRA ADAM1 0AAVOVITCH, CITY ATTORNEY
CITY OF DENTON1 `TEXA8
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f I Chou motion, Alford second that the resolution be approved. On roll I
call vote, McAdams 'aye,' Alexander 'aye,' Hopkins 'Aye,' Alford
'aye0' Chew' 'aye,' and Mayor Stephens; lays,' Motion carried
unanimously.
The 6Undil received d report on the following miscel-
laneous Atattere from. the city M4nager, '
City Managet Lloyd. Harrell reported that transportation would ne
provided for Council Members attending the planning seminar in
I Dallas on November 44 Those lnterostsd should -Meet In -the Civic
Centel parking lot at 7s00 a,m, and the group would return to Denton
around 6130 p.m,
Pour possible dates had boon offered by the City's auditors for a
tax seminar, The Council' decldod on Tuesday, November 25th at
5930p,M, in the City Council Chambers,
Harrell concluded by reported that at the eloae 6a the City'a
financial bookso the general revenues exceeded 'expandituros by f
approximately $196,0040
F A. New Business.
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fat future Agendas. y
Thi Counoil than oonsidsrsd agenda item 12 which had been delayed 1
dot to time constraints,
I 2, The Council dansidered giving staff direction regarding
engineering Wotk on the Oak-Hickory street improvement project,
City Manager Lloyd harrall reported that the Hickory Street oasign
had been delayed until after January 1 per Councils inatructtoad,
Other' projects Would be started in tho Interim, The design element
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Meeting of Novellibee 41 1986
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spoke to two suojectsl one was the long range transportAtton plan
for the Cltye which would be vitally important, Miokory could be
i designedto be bone-way 'with'couplet$ with one side left for on
{ street parking or it could be left two-way with no parking, Staff
was presenting four altornativess
1, a width of 37 feet with 3 lanes one-way ;(representing
a savings of $70,000)
2, a width of 37 to 45 feet with -3 lanes one-way ana
pai;king on 1 lane (representing a savings of 45tl,00u)
3. a width of 45 feet with 3 lines one-way with parking
on l aide (representing a savings of ;20oooo)
j' 4, a ++ldth of 45 feet with 2 Ian** each way and parking
on bath sides (representing no savings)
Statf was recommencing alternate 43.
Chew motion, A116Cd second to direct staff to proceed with the
/ engineering work on the Oakwdiokory street Improvement,peo3ect with
!I( alternative 14, 110kion carriers 5 to 1 With Council Mariner McAaams
Casting the 'nay', vote. f
! g, No oflilctat action on executive session itaoa of legal
E matters, real Olitatet personnel and/or board app0lntmdnt5 Was tdK*n.
lu, The Coincll'convened Into the executive session to cisouss
gal matters) real estate, personnel ana/cr'boatd appointments, c,o i
official action was taken,
1 with no further Items of business, the moot n9 was adj U"toed.
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DATE: September 7, 1986
TO: Jerry Clark, City Engineer
PROM: Ronnie Forsythe, Engineering Tech 11
SUBJECT: Trees on Oak/Hickory
On August 22,1988 1 met with `Mr, John Cooper, the Denton
County Extension Agent concerning the trees on Oak-and'Hickory
street
C ! In his judgment, the pecan trees that have a minimum of 21.0"
€ from the back of curb to the edge of tree would have a good j
chance of surviving with proper care. I
Mr, Cooper also stated that he could no.t see removing .a tree as
long as we do not disturb the root flare of the 'free, even in j
( I , the case of the tree being less than the aforementioned two, (2)'
feet from the back of curb. He was conrerned'about the anchor,
t system of the trees, It was his concern'that the damage to the 1
one side of the root system would create a weakness for the
tree in the event of high winds.
The likel'ihood` of the trees surviving would dramatically I
increase with extra care taken,, 1,0 pruning, construction
taking place during the dormant season, care of the tree after
damage has occurred and on 'future; projects. the notification to
! the homeowners the year before construction is to take plate oo '
they may make an effort to take some extra care on the trees.
Mr, Cooper was very cooperative and is willing to meet with us
any time concerning our projects,
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Location 24 Hr Vol Date
Ave C between 13S 6 Eagle Drive 5154 01-29-87
' Ave E between Hickory $ Stella
P` Ave E between Highladd $ Eagle 9459 01-29.87
9553 01.29.87
i Bell N of McKinney
Bell N. of University 90995 02.23-87
7,273 02-17.87
r Bell S of McKinney
Bell S. of University 7,325 d2-23-87
12,796 02-16-87
Bell S, of Windsor 2,649 02-17-87
Bernard between Hickory 8 M,Jberry
11182 02-23-87 r
1 Bonnie Brae at 380
Carroll at Crescent NO 7293 13 87
I I 91523 04-01-87
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E I I Carroll a Congress NB 13,084 04-01-87
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Colorado E of Loop 288 2,413 62-2S-87 e
I Colorado W of Loop 288
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Congress W of Carroll 3069A 0
Crescent E of Carroll 4-0187
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Crescent W of Carroll
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Ector between Emery $ University 1232 01-19.87
` Ector'between Sena 4 Scripture
715 0I-19x87
Elm 6 Sycamore Warrant
Elm > i
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Sycamore 1899 02-12.87
If Elm N of Maple 6269 02-1087 i
Fulton between 380 b Westway S730 01-20-87 i
Fultua_between Oak 4 Gregg 2233 01.20.87
Glenwood at 380 1,331 03-10.87
Gregg at Fulton BB $25 02.23.87
WB 176 02.23.87
Gregg at }yonder BB
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W9 257 02-2347
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Hercules between Locust $ Redstone 2607 02-03-87
Hickory > 'ik::,~lYe C. 9820 01-29-87
Hickory East of Carrg1I 4501 .02»03-87
Hickory W. of Bell
4772 02-03-87
Hickory Weat of Carroll 8173 02.03-87
i Hickory at Bonnie Brae 2884 02-03-87
Hinkle at Windsor 3235 01-21.87
Hobson at (country Club Rd 2,692 03-05.87
l~ Lillian Miller at 135 NB ;
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W.B. Sycamore 936 02-16-87
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Locust at Parkway Warrant
S. of Parkway 5,115 02.23.87
N. of Parkway 6 i
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M900 between Ave A 8 `Ave B
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Morse at Woodrow 1162 01x27.81 !
Nottingham S. of Windsor 19434 02.1687 t
Nottingham at 38o
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Oak Hasa 4pfslr:,Hraa
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Old North Rd at 380 5329 01.28.87
Paisley at Frame 1915 01.27.87.
Paisley at Mulky 1249 01.27x87
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j West of Elm 4,360 02.18.87
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East of Locust 3,123 62.23-87
West of Locust 40772 02.23.87
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6 Saar Bass at 135
Scripture at Bonnie brae 1,408 03.09.87
Scripture ac Ponder 3,052 01.14-87
Shady Oaks at Willow Springs 4547 02-14-87
f Stuart N. Of Windsor 4781 01-28-87
f Stuart S. Of Windsor 5301 02.02.87 '
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I W Bound Oak E Of Carroll 375S 02-03-87
I W Bound Oak W of Carroll 5794 o2-09-87
W/B Oak B of Ja8oe 7263 02.09-87 „I
Welch at Mulberry 4000 02.09-87
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Windsor E of Hwy 77 SS43 01.21-87
Windsor W of 77 61524 02.24-87 '
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reasons why the owner cannot or should not
undertake to safeguard the structural soundness of the
building, It shall forward to the city council its
r; recommendation as to what action, If any, should be
s taken on the structuo,
(g) Any applicant or interested person aggrieved by e
ruling of the landmark commission under the
provisions of this section may, within thirty (30) days
after the date of such ruling, appeal to the city
council,
Section 28A•13, Historic landmark designation to coexist
with other use classiJtcations, Use classifications as to all
property which may be Included In an historic landmark
designation shall continue to be governed by the compro-
{ honsive zoning ordinance of the city and the procedures
therein established,
• Section 28A•14. Historic districts defined; restrictions
imposed therein, criteria /or district boundaries established;
requisites for applications for districts set forth; criteria for
evaluating some provided; di^trict preservation plans
defined; miscellaneous administrative requirements of land.
mark commission set forth; procedure for modification of
ordinance provisions established,
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j ! (a) Definition. Districts which may be designated historic
` landmarks referred to as pursuant "historic districts" andashall temeann
geographically definable areas possessing significant
concentration, linkage or continuity of buildings, +
J ` structures .sites, areas or land which are united by
architectural, historical, archaeloglcal or cultural
Importance or significance,
i (b) Restrictions, All buildings, structures, sites, areas or
lands located within a designated -historic district,
r whether individually designated historic or not, are
subject to these regulations, No person or entity shall
j construct, reconstruct, alter, change, restore, remove or
demolish In any way the exterior features of such
building, structure or site, area or land until a permit
has been granted by the building official of the Cky of
► Denton, Furthermore, no public improwmentg 141
ing, but not limited to, street canstructiI signs;
i lighting, sidgwaik construction, parking faeWthr'attd
traPtia iyitMss ahangoo,y except traffic control slow +r
r and devices, shall be made within or affecting art;
t Ioic dis rlct without approval of the city cour►ell ±
14tenclxtlon has been submitted, by tM z'
Land"aiii odnami~wian and sioptapriate city drpart•
Monts. '
(c) district boundaries, The boundaries of historic dis•
tr(cts shall be drawn so as to Include all buildings,
structures, sites, areas or lands which me*t one or
more of the criteria set out in Section 28A 3 herein or
which directly affect or relate to such buildings,
etruoturee, sites, areas or lands meeting one or more
of the Section 2SA-3 oritet At, provided that at least
fifty-one (51) per cent of the total structures within OW
boundaries are of architectural, historic, archaeologi-
cal or cultural Importance or value.
r (d) Establishment of historic districts,
rii Annnratinna fnr consideration of an historic
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construction methods or techniques;
(b) The feasibility of rerouting or relocation of
sewer, water, electric, gas lines or equipment,
drainage facilities, sidewalks, driveways, or other
utilitiiee, equipment, or improvements required or
needed to serve any building or use located or to
be located on the property or other property.
Where strict compliance with the design standards,
j requirements, or regulations or Appendix A would
t prevent the rerouting or relocation of the
improvements, the Department mays upon approval of
the Development Review- Committee, allow a
modification of the standard, raguiremant, or
I regulation to allow preservation of the protected'
tree so long as thsre would be no substantial
F adverse effect from such modification; and
(c) The additional cost, if any that would be incurred f
s , as a consequence of insuRal preservation of the
protected tree.
I 202, Capital Improvem"t Projects.
All City capital improvement projects 'shall be designed and }
constructed to as to preserve protected trees to the degree that
is reasonably possible. If the i
! proposed project would result in i
i the removal of any, protected tree, the department responsible for I
j the project shall, at or prior to the-final desiga of the project, E
submit to the Planning and Zoning Commission iOforuation as to
what protected trees would be removed at a result of the project,
If the Commission `determines that the pro *sod project would i
unnecessarily cause the removal of say protected tree, the infor
oration submitted to the Commissions along with the Commission's
rocoameadatioa thove"o shall be subaittU to the City Council
for its approval.
Li\(A DISPLAY MAP SHOWING PROTECTED TREES WILL BE AVAILABLE AT THE MEETING)
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300, Properties subject to Requirements; fuaeptioaa.
After the effective date of this Code, all properties for
which a building or parking lot permit is required to make any
improvements to any property used or to be used for multi-family
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Navainber 14, 1988
Page 6
Mss Evans stated that lZ feet is the ideal size for a travel
lane,
Mr. Barker stated-that the footprint of Oak Street should not
be changed,
Mr. Clark stated that the traffic movements on Oak Street have
been watched, Changing the curbs will not allow someone to go
faster, but will hopefully prevent some accidents. A iZ foot
lane includes a foot and one-half of gutter, People don't
! drive In them, Thoy will park in them,
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Mr. Barker asked the speed limit oil Oak Street. Mr. Clark
said 30 miles per hour.
Mr. Barker said that there are no speed limit signs,
,
j Mr, Lowry stated that lie is concerned about changing the
connection between the historic District and the rest of the
pproject, fie said that Oak Stroot should not be widened
between Carroll and Bonnie Brae,
Ms. Abbott stated that guttering is needed along Oak near
Avenue G.
Mr, Lowry moved to recommend brat Oak Street should not be
E widened between Bohnie Brae and Carroll except for guttering
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I at the intersection with Avenue G. Motion died for lack of
second.
Mr, Clark stated that the plan for Oak Street through the
historic District calls for the elimination of the existing
jog and a small widening of the intersections to improve the
turning radius, 'file hump will 'be taken out of the inter-
soctioii at Maurits Street, No trees will be removed. The
G4sidewalks will not be upgraded.
I Mr, Lowry stated that lie does not want traffic to go any
faster through the area,
I Mr, Clark said that the drive is unsafe if a car stops in
front of another one, The turning _radii are not a major
problem but the City would like to widen them to a common,
standard size,
Dir. Lowry moved to rocommond Mr. Ilaye's suggestion that OAk
Street, between Donnie Brao and Car-roll Boulovttrd, should not
be widened. `Iiickovy Street from Carroll Boulevard to Welch
Street should not be widened,' It should be changed to allow
two travel lanes and ou-street parking oil both sido~, of
Hickory Street ar bike lanes from Carroll to Welch, Hickory
Stroot from Welch to Bonnic hrao should be no eider than I
allowing two travel lanes and on-street parking or bike
lanes, Soconded by 1,18. Shelton and unanimously carried (7-0).
Mr. Clark stated that hickory between Welch and Carroll will
not be rodono because it was not part of the bond election,
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November 14, 1988
page 7
Mr, Harker emphasized that the now curb radii were not, to be
approved.
Mr. Clark left the mooting.
Mr. Miller stated that traffic people naturally have the urge
to widen lanes.
Y. „
Mr. Lowry clarified° that curb excavation would be over the r
current foot)rint and the motion was meant to retain the
current widt '
Ile said that iho motion yeas inoai.t foi the
li' u~ v 1 '!S"`F a ♦rt ~ f
' ;.`,°'rt~ T~atI ti r. ety,of Odk q5 tree t'i' h ~ yy n.
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IN, Consider recommending support for the Jones Farm concept.
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Mr. Lowry stated that there will be a tour of the Jones Farm
on November 30, 1988, Mr, Cochran can be contacted for more
details. Senator Glassgow has come out in favor of Jones
Farm. A motion of support from the Commission would be
helpful. The Jones Farm is located within the Lake Ray
Roberts area, It is a working farm on a historical and
archeologically significant ;Ito, The Texas Dapartmen'°°L of
Parks and Wildlife wants to fund a living farm. This is one
of the sites being considered, Numerous groups: are inter-
osted in the project, lie 'moved that the `Commission support
the concept and recommend pursuing it further, Seconded by
Mr, Miller and unanimously carried (7-0).
V. Now Business
Ms. Evans stated that a petition has been received to change
the name of Pockrus Road. She asked the Commission is they
would like to have =z special mooting to consider additional
agenda Items,
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Mr, Lowry suggested beginning the December meeting tit, an
earlier time,
The Commission agreed on the suggestion. Ms, livens said that
she would send a notice asking the Commissioners to arrange
their schedule so that attendance would be possible,
Meeting adjourned at 6;20,
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TO Lloyd V. Harrell, City Manager
FRWt► Rick Srehlp, Assistant City Manager
DATE: October $00 1986 x"
SUNV3CTI Construction of Hickory Street z
following the last meeting, several of the Council bombers
asked us to look at alternatives for Hickory Street. In,
prevtous back-up material we had talked about parking lanes and
making the :street one way. Staff 'began looking at these i;
options in an effort to follow the transportation plan is
developed in the Development C;uide. On the attached map you
f will see that oak and Hickory Street iota a asSor arterial
system for the conveyance of traffic east and was You will
also note that these two atteets eyeptually Cl
iota sae
street • Ouk'Sireet uhlch leads further west to too freeway
and, an underpass at that juacturo. It thei~ exterA f Not further west toward the airport and the iNdustri ai 'h~'r~'
intensity area that has Nehn rontsibed to t4; Wvelop"at, 41 0
for the last five years, J~+d}edo av4a naw*, lanniag aad.,tes. mr
is considering eaiargia` this western iatenslty aC r~
I staff has always felt that because of the juncture &a,
tiisg
overpass At 133 and the intensity designations tit
the..lan4 y a
planning gutds, that, this will become a major Patrt, to
City and a Major conduit for east-west traffic lro+a the 4ri
industrial arse to the Yost of the City. This is,ltay ttiis' }
street should be a`major carrier and why Maio leasing totrard a
one-way Pair since it is the most efficient, .:,tip ~
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At the rase time, the staff is always awarM of the
E coastrat is that we all face# because Oak and Welke, r eMl , ~'f;
oas,bloec apart mad because Me. k"w that,, 00 stir
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However, the one-woy couplet was not the only solution that we
looked at. The 00 10011on ateeet bond issue provides u! with
enough funding -to hold any of the following road 'actions$
Section Width Description Savings
371 Three lanes one-way $700000
371•45' Three lanes one way $300000
(parking on north aide between
Avenue C and Avenue A)
45 ultimately three loner one-wry $28,000
(continuous parkins lane on
north aide)
45' 'two lanes in each direction =0
(initially could allow for
parking on both sides)
C Bach of these tacilittee has 'cone good points and bad points
! The 374, section allows us to carry a large number of vehicles
! I offiotently. It would also, reduce • our cost the most, On the
other hand, it -Oaken no provision for parking at all in the
western ~a,ress of Hickory$ this may be all right $face that is
partee tt buildings and accommodations ware wade In
it porking Facilities to, provide for one and a half to two
Ceti per dwel.Its$ unit# Howaver,-it does not address the needs
of tI0 residefetl it Areas further to the east or the cotasercfal
slit erpriaer between Avenue N and Avenue Ad
the second Section that varies between 371 and 45' does allow
1 for parking between Avenue C and Avenue While this would be
very similar to the extating pattern between Avenue C and .
Avenue A, it does not addrits any needs for parking further
west of Avenue Co Incidentally, this was the initial
suggest on to you several weeks ago#
The asxt` section is 450, however, it would be built sooovhat
different than we build our normal sections, It would aglow us
to build three lanes full depth aspholt, which would`enei,le us
to Carry any kind ot0 traffic including heavy loads. We would
also build g' of, this width as a thinner seettoa that would be y
used only for parking. In all likelihood we would sug`so that >t
this lane be located on the north side of Hickory fat its V11.
entire length. This eaction would allow us to Ultimately, Carry .
three lanes of traffic in one direction APA allow paW as on
one aid* of the facility. It wou14 ollow us to us the aeon
stltcient design for Carrying traffic cad still" most the
demands for the parking needs. s
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d#'i~eatl,ibl: OYVl!ouely this does eon alta4l !`r sa: s `
f t! #Il.4ertyi'arg capability in one direction,
ter t ;of cartyi,ag capability, becawse f. flao KedWdis
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s+ reteutarly the left»Wmd tuna tiowai is a ! it
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vest, is All likelihood, a detision would bane to be Made to
~i reduce, porktmg in the future, When this occurred, the t'
{ capabiliti#a would be eliminated from the facility, p+~rklpg i
After hosting the discussions and concerns of the Couaeil, ~rx
staff has gone back and 'relooked at the options, i. seems to be a need for parking along the satire lenit heofhe"
the
f street, staff would suggest alternative 43k This would all
ow
the construction of v xy' section at Euli depth 'and ott' 81
i section for parking at a lesser de»th, Initially thto seettob l'
1 could be matted and striped is s two•way sect on with parkiiis f
on one side, This alternative would also save us $280404, an
the summer of 1987, ire will begin rebuilding Oak street and s
Similar section could be Wit. When both streets are
completed# the -Council would then have the option of chaa inr '
the traffic patterns in the area to a one-war couplet 313 'S
would still allow parking on one side of each street,- We would
I then be able to moot the demands. of the future growth to the
west side of the Cityy and still allow for pfor
commercial and residential needs of the ctticens 8164Sgthese q
new facilities,
We will have a strip map and other inforvatioa available for '
the council at their Meetin . We would be he
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answer any further questions That they might'havipy to try And
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City of Denton city Council Minutes
Meeting of November 4, 1996
Page Seventeen
ra SECTION i.
The Counoil of the City of Denton hereby declares Tuesday,
November 18, 1986 to be Mayors' D-Day in the War on Drugs in the
City of Denton, Texas
SECTION 11,
' That the citizens of the City of Denton, Texas participate
in our goal of a drug-free city and a drug-free America.
SECTION !I h
That this resolution shall become effective immediately
upon its passage and approval.
PAJSEU AND APPROVED this the 4th nay of November, 1966.
RAFT STEPHENS, MAYOR
} CITY OF DENTON? TEXAS
4 } ATTES'S'i
i CHARUOM ALLEN, CITY SE~k4hHY
I CITY OF DENTUN, TEXAS
APPROVED AS TO LEGAL FuHMi
DEBRA ADAMI DRAYOVITCH, CITY ATTORNEY
I CITY OV DENTON, TEXAS
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Chew motion, Alford second that the resolution be approved, on roll E
i call vote, McAdams lays,' Alexander 'aye,' Hopkins 'I "Alford
lays,' Chew 'aye,' and Mayor 14tephens "sye,' Motion carried
unanimously,
7. The Council received a report on the following miscoi-
lanrous matters from the City Manager,"
City Manager Lloyd Harrell reported that transportation would be
provided_ for Counoll Members attending the planning seminar in
Dallas on November 4, Those Interested should nest in the Civic
Center parking lot at 7100 a,m, and the group would return to Donton
{ around 6130 p,m,
tl Pour possible dater had beet, offered by the City's auditors tot a ;
tax seminar, The Council decided` On Tuesday, November 25th at
5130 p.m. in the City council chambers.
Harrell concluded by reported that at the close the the City's
fdnanvisl books, the general revenues eXdorded expendizurrs by
approximately *198,0o0.
3 8, New Busineer ;
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No items of now business were auggestsd by Council Members
for futurr agendas,
The Council then Considered agenda item #2 which had been celaYed
due to time constraints,
24 The Council Considered giving staff direction regarding;
engineering work on the oak-Hiokory street improvoment proieot,
City manager Lloyd Harrell'repurtsd that the Hickory Street resign
had been delayed until after January 1 per Council's instructions.
Other projects woulo be started in the interim. The design element
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City of Denton City council Minutes
Meeting of November 40 1968
Page Eighteen
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spoke to two subjectst one was the long range transportation plan
for the city, which would be vitally important, Hickory could be
designed to be one-way with oouplets with one aide left for on
street parking or it could be left two-way with no parking. Staff
was presenting four alternatives
1. a width of 37 feet with 3 lanes one-way lrepresenting
a savings of $70,000)
2, a witoth of 37 to 45 feet with 3 lanes one-way and
parking on 1 lane (representing a eaviAgs of $50)00u)
7 3, a width of 45 feet with 3 lanes one..-way with parking
_f on 1 side (representing a savings of $260000)
# 4, a width of 0 feet with 2 lanes each way and parking
on both aides (representing no savings)
5tatf was recommending alternate 13,
Chew motion, Alford second to direct staff to proceed with the
engineering work on the Oak-Hickory street improvement project with j
alternative 14. Motion carried 5 to 1 with (ouncll Memvsr McAdams
fl( ll i casting the "nay' vote,
} 91 No official action on uxecutiva sesaicn items of legal i
matters, real estates personnel and/or board appointments was takau,
I I 10, The 'Council convened into the Ekeoutive Session to tliscuas
1 legal matters, real estate, personnel ano/or board appointments. Fro
i I official action was taken,
With no further items of business, the meeting was adjourned, i
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