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June 3, 1968
Mr. Tom Harpool, Chairman
Charter Revision Committee
P. O, Box 599
Denton, Texas
Dear Mr. Harpool:
Charter Revision Committee's Request to Define Intent of Council
and Duties of the Charter Revision Committee
It wa a and is the intent of the City Council in appointing the Charter
Revision Committee that they examine the Charter for changes that would
have sufficient public interest to place such changes before the public.
The Council does not expect the Committee to express its personal philosophies
nor to do any political campaigning for the public revisio.,k, but only to recall
revisions that Justify a public hearing and a possible place on the ballot.
' f The Council will consider that the Committee has discharged ite'duties`
when it presents its report to the Council.
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CHARTER REVISION COMMITTEE
August 7, 1968
Regular meeting of the Charter Revision Committee, Wednesday, August 7,
1968, In the Community Building, Denton, Texas.
Present: Chairman Thompson, Ramsey, Stout, Nunley, Roberts, Speck,
E. Davis, Hamilton, B. Davis, Price, City Attorney, and
Administrative Inte+n.
Absent: Gamble.
1. Motion was made by Nelson, seconded by Speck, that the minutes
of the meeting of July 31, 1968, be approved. Motion carried,
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2. Motion was made by Roberts, seconded by Nelson, to limit discussion
of each of the ten Items by any one person to three minutes. Motion carried,
3. Items for Discussion:
a, Motion was made by Stout, seconded by Nunley, to rec_ m mend
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to the Council that the Mayor be elected by the electorate. Motion carried.
b. Motion was made by Speck, seconded by Nelson,
a Council shall consl~t of seven members including a mayor. Motion
ca+rf ed
c. Motion was made by Roberts, seconded by Thompson, to recommend
that the Council members be required to be owners of real property in the City
of Denton, in addition to other requirements. Motion defeated 10 to 2, with
Roberts and Thompson voting °c%ye",
d. Motion was made by Hamilton, seconded by Nunley, to recommend
th;,,ouncII be elected by a majority vote, which could require a runoff
election, Motion carried.
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e. Motion was made by Orr, seconded by Nunley, t 1 ina
Item No, S: "The Mayor would have no vote except in case of~! So Ion
ca rri ed,
f. Motion was made by Stout, seconded by Speck, jo recommend i
that he Council be elected by the nlAnp stem havina seven ]aces at-lar ee.
Places 1 4 to be elected In even numb rod Veart + 5-7 to be elected
in odd ered ears, with place seven reserved for the mayor. oon
carried.
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g. Motion was made by Nuniey, seconded by Orr, to recommend
that the Public Utilities Board be appointed by the Council. Mot on carried.
h. Motion was made by B. Davis, seconded by Orr, to recommend
thaithe City elections be hplei nn t he f; a da rather than the first'
Tuesday, of April. Motion carried.
I. Motion was made by B. Davis, seconded by Nelson, to recommend
that the C!tv Judge and Assistant .if- Iudae be required to be a llcenseedd "ma"r
attorney of t o a e o 4~exas. Motion carried.
j. Motion was made by Stout, seconded by Roberts, to recommend
that the City be prohibited from subscribing to any capital stock of any
private corporation, association, or person, or make any appropriation or
to donate to same, or lend its credit In any way.
On roll call vote, Ramsey voted "aye", Nunley voted "aye", 1
Orr voted "no", Nelson voted "no", B, Davis voted "no", Roberts voted "aye".
Speck voted "no", Hamilton voted "no% E. Davis voted "no", Stout voted
"aye", Price voted "aye", and Thompson voted "aye". Motion was defeated
6to6.
k. Motion was made by Stout, seconded by Hamilton, t delete
Section 10, 12 from the Charter, On roll call vote, Ramsey voted "aye",
un a voted "a
~ y }e ,Orr voted "aye", Nelson voted aye B. Davis voted aye", I~
Roberts voted "aye", Speck voted "aye", Hamilton voted "aye", E, Davis voted
aye", Stout voted "aye", Price voted "aye", and Thompson voted "aye".
'Motion carried,
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9. Motion was made by B. Davis, seconded by Orr, that the Committee
go on record in expressing appreel3tion to Jack Barton and Brooks Holt for
their contributions of time in meet,tng with the Committee. Motion carried.
k Meeting adjourned at 9;30 p.m.
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CHARTER REVISION COMMIT'PEE
t July 31, 1968
Regular meeting of the Charter Revision Coa.ni,cec, D.:cton, :.xas, 'Net;nCsday,
July 31, 1968, at 7 p.m. in the Community Building.
Present: Chairman Thompson, Ramsey, Gamble, Stout, Nunley, Robcrts, Speck,
E. Davis, Hamilton, B. Davis, Price, City Attorney, City Secretary.
Absent: Orr, Nelson,
1, Motion was made by B. Davis, seconded by Speck, that minutes of the
I regular meeting of July 17, 1968, be approved. Motion carried.
I 2. City Attorney Jack Barton introduced Mr. William Pitstick, Executive
Director of the North Central Texas Council of Governments, and Mr. C: arles
Wells, Assistant City Attorney of Dallas, as members of a pane] to discuss ten
preliminary proposed changes in the City Charter.
3. A panel discussion ensued with Mr. Pitstick and Mr. Wells:
PROPOSED CHARTER CHANGES PASSED BY THE
C14ARTER REVISION COMMITTEE WITH PRELIMINARY VOTING
Item # 1. The Mayor to be elected by all of the electorate.
I Pitstick; Yes, this would be good.
Wells: This would be legal.
r Item # 2. The Councilmen to consist of seven (7) members plus; a mayor.
Pitstick: Recommended six (6) councilmen plus a mayor voting.
` Mayor should be a policy leader of a city.
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Item # 3. Ownership of real property to be a requirement for a Council member.
' Pitstick: This is not necessarily a wise requirement. This should
have additional study,
Wells: Legally, it can be done.
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r Item #4. Councilmen and Mayor to be elected by a majority vota, which could
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I Pitstick: This Is a very good proposal.
i Wells: No legal difficulty.
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Item # S. The Mayor would have no vote except in case of a tie.
Pitstick: Mayor should have a vote.
Wells: (Agreed)
Item # 6. The Councilmen to be elected by :lace with Places I through 4
by precinct, Places 5 though B at-large, with Place 8 reserved
for the Mayor. Both Councilmen and the Mayor will be voted on
by all the electorate.
j Pitstick: Had reservations on the wisdom of electing by precincts. dd
Wells: There are redistricting problems involved - Dallas redistricts k
every two years. i
Item # 7. The Public Utilities Board to be appointed by the Council.
Pitstick; Definitely favored appointment of Board by the Council.
Wells: No legal comment.
Item #8. City elections to be held on Saturday rather than Tuesday.
Pitstick: This is all right. No problem.
Wells: Right to select day of election has been granted to cities.
Item # 9. The City judge must be an attorney.
Pitstick: This is desireable.
Wells: This is good.
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Item # 10. The City be prohibited from subscribing to the capital stock of any
private corporation, association, or person, or make any appropriation
j or donation to same, or lend its credit in any way. I
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Wells: This is a constitutional provision of the State of Texas, There
is no need to add this to the ballot.
Additional comments:
Wells: I have reservations on Number 3. 1 suggest that 2, 4, 6, anz possibly
8 could be so worded that they could be included in one chango. Items
3, S, 7, 9, and 10 should be submitted individually.
Pitstick: Suggested seven (7) councilmen, including mayor; 4 to be e.iectad
one year and 3 the next, at-large by places but not by precincts, with
Place 1 reserved for the Mayor. Item 5 would not be necessary if
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July 31, 1968
s~;gestion for Item 2 was accepted. Items 70 81 9, and 10 are .
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proposals, but might want to make for Assistant
~ Judge in Item # 9.
1 Nunley, to amend Section 10.12
q, Motion was made by Stout, seconded by motion
private { to irty cannot be condemned for private use."
"that urinary vote) with request that City Attorney present
to read,
carried unanimously, P
an opinion.
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July 17, 1968
Regular meeting of the Charter Revision Committee, Denton, Texas, Wednesday, 1
July 17, 1968, in the Community Building.
Present: Acting Chairman B. Davis, Stout, Ramsey, Price, Nunley, Roberts,
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Gamble and City Secretary.
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k Abeent: Orr, Hamilton, Thompson, City Attorney.
1, Motion was made by Roberts, seconded by Price, that the minutes of
the meeting of July 10, 19680 be approved. Motion carried.
2. Stout requested that Section 10.12 be passed over until the next
meeting since the City Attorney was not present. The Committee concurred.
Motion was made by Nunley, seconded by Nelson, that compilation
+ of sections that have been preliminarily changed, plus Section 10. 12, be itemized
E and made available to the Committee, and to request the City Attorney to supply
copies to the proposed panel, City Council members and members of the original
Charter Commission. Motion carried unanimously. i
Motion was made by Nelson, seconded by Nunley, to ask the Texas
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Municipal League for the following information of cities with the city manager '
form of government:
j a . Number who have elected mayor
b. Number who have council-appointed mayor
j c, Number where mayor votes only in case of tie
I d. Number who have 4, S, 61 71 or more councilmen, excluding
the mayor
e, Number who elect council by ward
f. Dumber who elect council by precinct
g Number who elect council exclusively h. Number who elect council by at-large
modified ward.
Motion carried unanimously.
S. Motion was made by Nunley, seconded by Stout, to arrange a
meeting with the proposed panel on July 24, or July 31, whichever can be arranged.
Motion carried unanimously.
6. Motion was made by Speck, seconded by Nunley, that at the next
meeting after discussions with panel, all b rsiness be concluded. Motion
carried unanimously.
Meeting adjourned at 8:20 p.m.
Chairman
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CHARTER REVISION COMMITTEE
July 10, 1968
I Regular meeting of the Charter Revision Committee, Denton, Texas, Wednesday,
i July 10, 1968, at 7 p.m. in the Community Building.
Present: Ramsey, Stout, Price, Nunley, Roberts, Nelson, Hamilton, Speck,
Davis, Gamble, City Attorney, and City Secretary,
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Absent: E. Davis, Orr, Thompson,
1. Motion was made by Nunley, seconded by Roberts, that the minutes of
the meeting of June 26, 1968, be approved. Motion carried.
2. Chairman B. Davis read a letter of resignation from Dr. H. W. Kamp.
Motion was made by Nunley, seconded by Roberts, that the resignation be
accepted. Motion carried.
3. Motion was made by Davis, seconded by Speck, that a consultant program
on the Denton Charter Review, involving specially qualified consultants, be i
immediately undertaken; further, that on all hearings involving such consultants
the members of the original Denton Charter Commission be specially invited to
attend, and their questions and comments welcomed; further, that on all such
occations our City Council be specially invited to attend as a Body in order to
observe and hear the comments of the panel; further, that the panel of consultants
consist of a specialist in municipal law from a major law school of this State,
an attorney from the legal department of some City, or from a law firm of this
state, specially qualified in the field of municipal law, and a representative
i from the Texas Municipal League in Austin, Texas.
After the motion, Roberts made a motion, seconded by Ramsey, that the
motion be tabled. Motion carried with Speck voting "no", Hamilton, "no",
Nelson, "no", Davis, "no", and Roberts voting "yes", Nunley, "yes", Price,
"yes", Stout, "yes", Gamble, "yes% Ramsey, "yes".
4. Motion was made by Roberts, seconded by Nelson, that the Committee
proceed with its business. Motion carried.
5. Motion w4s made by Nunley, seconded by Stout, that Article 5 be passed
without change, Motion carried unanimously.
6. Motion was made by Nunley, seconded by R-)berts, that the previous
motion be rescinded. Motion carried,
7. Motion was made by Stout, seconded by Gamble, that Section 5.01 be
passed, Motion carried unanimously.
8. Motion was made by Stout, seconded by Gamble, that Section 5.02 be
passed. Motion carried unanimously.
9. Motion was made by Stout, seconded by Price, that Section 6,02 be
pass,id. Motion carried unanimously.
106 Motion was made by Nunley, seconded by Stout, that in Section 6.03(b)
"and" be substituted for "or". Motion carried unanimously,
11. Motion was made by Hamilton, seconded by Roberts, that Section 6.04
be paused pending recommendation of the City Attorney. Motion carried unanimously.
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12. Motion was made by Hamilton, seconded by Nunley, that Section 7.43
be passed. Motion carried unanimously.
13. Motion was made by Hamilton, seconded by Nunley, that Section 7.23
be passed. Motion carried unanimously,
14. Motion was made by Stout, seconded by Speck, that the following shall
be placed under Section 7,30: That the City shall not subscribe to the capital
stock of any company, corporation or person, nor shall it make a donation to
any company, corporation or person, nor in any way lend its credit. Motion
` j carried unanimously.
15. Motion was made by Stout, seconded by Ramsey, to y, pass Section 8.07.
Motion carried unanimously,
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16.' Motion was made by Roberts, seconded by Price, to pass Section 10.3
+g (a) (1). Motion carried unanimously.
17. Stout made a motion that in Section 10.12 the following be added: No
land can be condemned for private use without a vote of the people. Following
this motion, Stout requested to return to the above matter at the next meeting.
A motion was then made by Nunley, seconded by Roberts, that Article 10.12
be the first item of business at the next meeting. Motion carried unanimously, i
' 18. The Committee requested the City Attorney to give a legal opinion on
voting by precinct,
19. Motion was made by Nunley, seconded by Speck, that the Chairman be
authorized to sign a joint resolution of appreciation to Tom HarpooI. Motion
carried unanimously,
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20. Motion was made by Stout, seconded by Roberts, that the City Attorney
invite another City Attorney from this area, a Texas Municipal League representative
and a specialist in municipal law from a major law school in the state to the next
meeting, and that all original members of the Charter Commission and present
members of the City Council be Invited to observe. Motion carried.
Meeting adjourned at 10:25 p.m.
Chairman
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June 26, 1968
Regular meeting of the Charter Revision Committee, June 26, 1968, at 7:30
! p.m. in the Community Building, Denton, Texas, A
Present: E. Davis, Hamilton, Roberts, Thompson, B. (Avis, Nelson,
Gamble, Stout, Ramsey, Price, Mayor Martin, Mayor Pro Tern
Marvin Loveless, City Attorney and City Secretary.
Absent: Harpool, Orr, Kamp, Speck and Nunley.
1. Acting Chairman Thompson read a letter of resignation from Tom Harpool,
Chairman, and expressed his regrets,
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2. Motion was made by B. Davis, seconded by Gamble, to approve the
minutes of the regular meeting of June 12, 1968. Motion carried, i
3. Motion was made by Hamilton, seconded by Nelson, that every
Committee member who cannot attend a meeting notify the City Secretary
prior to 4 p.m, the day of the mr eting, and that If a quorum is not
present within thirty minutes after the announced starting time, a
meeting will not be held,
Stout made a motion, seconded by Roberts, to amend the motion to read
I "A quorum will consist of a simple majority, rather than 10 members."
Motion carried,
4. Motion was made by Thompson, seconded by Roberts, that candidates for
the City Council must own a minimum interest of 4, 000 square feet of
real property. The motion failed 8 to 2 with Roberts and Thompson voting
„aye"
5, Mayor Martin suggested that August 1 be set as a target date to complete
the Charter work, and the Committee agreed to attempt to complete work
by this date.
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6. Chairman Thompson opened nominations for Vice-Chairman. Stout nominated
f B. Davis and Roberts nominated Dr. Nelson. Following a close vote,
1 { motion was made by Hamilton, seconded by Stout, to elect Davis by
acclamation. Motion carried.
7. Motion was made by Stout, seconded by Gamble, that Article 2, Section
L 2.08(c) include appointment of the Public Utility Board. Motion carried
r[ 8 to 2 with Hamilton and E, Davis voting "no".
Motio.; *vas made by B. Davis, seconded by Stout, that Article 3, Section
3, 01(a) state that voting date for regular City elections be changed to the
first Saturday In April. Motion carried unanimously.
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9. Motion was made by Hamilton, seconded by Nelson, that study of
Article 5 be the first item of business at the next regular meeting, which
was set for July 3, 1968. '
Meeting adjourned at 9:50 p.m.
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June 12, 1968
Regular meeting of the Charter Revision Committee, Benton, Texas,
Wednesday, June 12, 1968, In the Community Building at 7:30 P.m,
Present: Chairman Harpool, Orr, Gamble, Nunley, g, Davis, Price,
Thompson, Roberts, Nelson, Stout, E. Davis, Hamilton, Speck, A
City Secretary,
Absent: Kamp and Ramsey,
1Motion was made by Nelson, seconded by Thompson, that the
minutes of the regular meeting of May 22, 1968, be approved, Motion carried,
2• Motion was made by Nelson, seconded by Orr, f
' that following the
preliminary vote on all amendments to the Charter, professional help be o
for the purpose of giving advantages and disadvantages of such amendm nts fined
After considerable discussion, Nelson withdrew his motion, with Orr, who
seconded, agreeing.
3. Motion was made by Nelson, seconded by Orr, that Council members
be elected by place by all the electorate. On roll call vote all voted "aye".
Motion carried unanimously.
4• Motion was made by Speck, seconded by Nelson, that Place 8 be
reserved for the Mayor who will have no vote except In case of a tie. Price
voted "nay "O Roberts voted "nay", and all others voted "aye's, Motion
carried with 11 ayes and 2 nays.
51 Motion was made by Stout, seconded by Nelson, that all Council
members and the Mayor be elected by a majority vote. All voted "aye".
Motion carried unanimously,
6. Motion was made by Nelson, seconded b S
motion of Apr1124,1968, (Item 8) which approves y peck, to delete the
voted "mayor,
k and that the Council consist of 7 members nd mayor hers, Roberts including a
nay"
with all other members voting "aye". Motion carried with 12ayes and 1 a
y,
7• Motion was made by Nelson, seconded by Stout, that 4 members
be elected by precinct, as are thu present county commissioner precincts,
by all the electorate and 4 at-large by all the electorate, Including the
Mayor. On roll call vote, all voted "aye". Motion carried unanimously.
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June 12, 1968
Motion was made by Orr, seconded by Nunley, to designate
places 1 through 4 by precinct, places 5 through 8 at-large, and that
candidates filing for places 1 through 4 be required to be a resident of the
precinct 6 months prior to the election date and that they must reside in the
i precinct from which they are elected during their term of office. All voted
I "aye", Motion carried unanimously,
' Meeting adjourned at 9:27
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May 22, 1968
Regular meeting of the Charter Revision Committee Wednesday, May 22,
1968, in the Community Building at 7:30 p.m.
Present: Chairman Harpool, Stout, B. Davis, Nunley, Nelson, Ramsey,
Speck, Gamble, Price, Orr, Thompson, Roberts, E. Davis, Kamp,
Hamilton, City Attorney, City Secretary,
Motion was made by Stout, seconded by Orr, that the minutes of the
meeting of May 8, 1968, be approved. Motion carried.
2. Motion was made by :
Morrisson and Richard Johnston of the North Texas tSta euUniversity
faculty to research the constitutionality of stipulating that only real
property owners be eligible for places on the City Council, Motion
carried.
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3. Motion was made by Thompson, seconded by Roberts, to hold the
matter of eligibility of Councilmen in abeyance until the above
research report is made. Motion carried.
j 4. The Committee discussed the Stout motion made at the meeting of
May 8 which related to Article 20 Section 2.034 of the Charter,
Following discussion, a motion was made by Orr, seconded by Stout, t
to table the above mentioned Stout motion and to obtain professional
outside help, with the vote on the motion to be held after the professional
opinion has been heard.
On roll-call vote, Speck voted "no", Nelson abstained, Orr voted "yes",
Stout, "no", Gamble, "no", Hamilton, "yes", E. Davis " to
no , Davis, yes", Thompson "no" Robe "yes", Yes ,Nunley,
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Ramsey, Price, "no", Ha ooI „ P, "yes ,
I was a 7-7 tie. The Stout motion as not tabled he result of the vote
5. Stout withdrew his motion of May 8, relative to Article 2
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I- with the permission of Thompson, who had seconded this/ motion.
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that the Mayor be elected by oil the electorate. On roll-call vote,
i Speck voted "yes", Nelson, "yes", Crr, "no", Stout "yes", Gamble
Yes , Hamilton, "no", E. Davis, "no", Nunley, "yesB. I
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tye/ Thompson, "yes", Roberts, "yes", Kamp, "no", Price" yes
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f Y, "yes", Harpool, "no". Motion carried, 10 to S.
Meeting adjourned at 10 p.m.
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May 8, 1968
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Regular meeting of the Charter Revision Committee, Wednesday, May 8,
1968, in the Community Bvilding at 7:30 p.m,
Present: Chairman Harpool, Stout, B. Davis, Nelson, Ramsey, Speck,
Gamble, Price, Orr, Thompson, Roberts, E. Davis, Kamp,
E Hamilton, City Manager, City Attorney, and City Secretary.
Absent: Nunley
I. Motion was made by B. Davis, seconded by Price, to approve the
minutes of the meeting of April 24,1968. Motion carried.
2. Motion was made by Speck, seconded by Roberts, that the following be
° added to Section 2.02, (a) (1.): and shall be an owner of real property therein."
The motion passed seven to five.
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3, Following a lengthy discussion of Article 2, Section 2.03, a motion was
made by Stout, seconded by Thompson, that the members of the City Council !
shall be elected by the qualified voters of the entire city, and they shall be !
elected for a term of two years. The person elected as Councilmen, Place 7,
shall be the presiding officer who shall be known as the mayor of the City of
Denton. He shall vote on all matters coming before the Council, but no power to ! Y.
veto; he shall represent the City on all ceremonial occasions and be known as the
official head of the city government. The places of the several councilmen shall
be designated on the official ballot as Member of Council, Place No. 1, 2, 3, 4, ;
St 6 and 7. The City shall be divided into six districts known as Districts A, B,
Co D, E and F.
(Note: Should this committee see fit to pass this change, I would suggest that
Chairman Harpool appoint a committee of three from this committee to
arrange the districts so as to make them as nearly equal in population
as is practicable.)
No person shall be eligible as a candidate for a member of Council, Place 1, unless
he is at the time a bona fide resident of District A.
No person shall be eligible as a candidate for a member of Council, Place 2, unless
he is at that time a bona fide resident of District B.
No person shall be eligible as a candidate for a member of Council, Place 3, unless
he is at that time a bona fide resident of District C.
No person shall be eligible as a candidate for a member of Council, Place 4, unless
11 he is at that time a bona fide resident of District D.
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No person shall be eligible as a candidate for a member of Council, Place 5, unless
he is at that time a bona fide resident of District E.
No person shall be eligible as a candidate for a member of Council, Place 6, unless
he is at that time a bona fide resident of District F.
A candidate for Place 7 may reside in any portion of the city.
The candidate at said election for a place on said Council who shall
receive a majority of all votes cast for the office for which he Is a candidate
shall be elected to such office. In the event any candidate for either of such
offices fails to receive a majority of all votes cast, for all the candidates for
such office at such election, the Mayor of said city shall on the first day following
the completion of the official count of the ballots cast in first said election, issue {
a call for a second election to be held in said city on the second Tuesday following
Issuance of such call, at which said second election the two candidates receiving
the highest number of votes for any such office In the first election, at rich no one
was elected at said first election by receiving a majority of all votes cast for all
candidates for such office, shall again be voted for, Theofflcial ballot to be used
at said second election shall be prepared by the City Secretary and the name of 1
no person shall appear thereon unless he was a candidate for the office designated
at the first said election, and the two persons receiving at said first election the
first and second highest number of votes cast for candidates for such office at
such first election, whall be entitled to have their names printed on said official i
ballot In the order of their standing In the computations of the votes cast for such
candidates at said first election. In the event of a tie between the two candidates
for any office at said second election, they shall cast lets to determine who shall
be elected to such office.
Considerable discussion of the motion followed, but action was tat•led
with discussion to be continued for as many meetings as needed.
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Meeting adjourned at 10:05 p.m.
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April 24, 1968
Regular meeting of the Charter Revision Committee was held Wednesday,
April 24, 1968, In the Community Building at 7:30 p.m.
Present: Chairman Harpo..I, Nu0sy, Stout, B. Davis, Nelson, Ramsey,
Speck, Gamble, Price, Orr, Thompson, Roberts, E. Davis,
Kamp, Hamilton, City Attorney, and City Secretary.
1. Motion was made by Roberts, seconded by Nunley, that tyre minutes
of the regular meeting of April 10, 1968, be approved. Motion carried.
2, Chairman Harpool reported that he had contacted Mayor Martin relative
to clarification of the Charter Revision Committee's function and the
Chairman indicated he would get official clarification from the City
Council In writing.
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3. Motion was made by Thompson, seconded by Roberts, to take up s 1
discussion of Charter articles In order as follows:
a. Notations made in accordance with minutes;
b. Mscussions;
C. Set down in a written form what the Committee has approved and
adopted;
d. Arid, in the event of a majority--minority vote, majority and
minority opinion will be rendered;
e. Intent of a change to be made one meeting and then vote on the
final wording the following meeting.
Motion carried.
9. City Attorney Barton stated that each charter change will constitute a
separate proposition on the ballot and will be voted on as such.
5. It was the general concensus of the Committee that charter items will
be considered and determination will be made as to whether the item
is of minor or major significance.
6. Motion was made by Stout, seconded by Hamilton, that the Committee
pass Section 1.03 without :hange. Motion canted.
7. Motion was made by Nunley, seconded by Thompson, that the Committee
pass Section 1.06. Motion carried.
8. After discussing Section 2.OI1 motion was made by Thompson, seconded
by Roberts, that the City Council shall consist of seven (7) rather than
five (5) members elected for a two year term.
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Motion carried after the following proposed amendment failed.
Speck motioned that an amendment to the motion be made, changing
the councilman's term to three years. Nelson seconded the motion. f
Motion failed.
9. Motion was made by Stout that the seven councilmen be elected at
large by places one through seven--the requirements being that
candidates shall have lived in precinct of the numerical place but
f that all councilmen be elected at large, with place seven reserved
f for the mayor,
In discussing the motion, City Attorney Barton advised that the term s
"At Large" is not compatible with the usual place system if any a
place is confined to a geographic precinct. "At Large" implies no
"r lessor subdivision of the political body.
Stout withdrew his motion,
10. Next meeting set for May 8, 1968, at 7;30 p.m. I
Meeting adjourned at 9:40 p.m.
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April 10, 1968
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Regular meeting of the Charter Revision Committee, City of Denton, Texas,
Wednesday, April 10, 1968, at 7:30 p.m, in the Community Building.
Present: Chairman Harpool, Nunley, Thompson, Roberts, B. Davis, Price,
Gamble, Stout, Nelson, Speck, Hamilton, E, Davis, City Secretary.
Absent: Orr, Ramsey, Kamp.
1. Motion was made by B. Davis, seconded by Nelson, that the
minutes of the regular meeting of March 27, 1968, be approved.
Motion carried.
' 2. City Secretary Brooks Holt read Articles 13 and 14 of the Charter R
and members indicated that they desired to discuss further the
following sections-
l3.Ol(a) and13.04 (d).
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' 3. Motion was made by Thompson, seconded by Nelson, to Invite
the City Attorney to attend all future meetings. Motion carried.
j 4. The Committee agreed to begin discussions of specific Charter
r , } sections the next regular meeting.
5. Discussion ;vas held relative to whether the Charter Revision
Committee or the City Council would hold public hearings relative
to Charter changes. Motion was made by Nunley, seconded by
Hamilton, to request the Chairman to seek clarification in writing
of the Charter Revision Committee's function by the next regular
meeting. Chairman Harpool agreed.
6. The Chairman suggested that letters be prepared by City boards and
I ` commissions containing suggestions for possible Charter changes.
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Meeting adjourned at 10:25 p.m.
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March 27, 1968
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Regular meeting of the Charter Revision Committee, City of Denton, Texas,
Wednesday, March 27, 19680 at 7:30 p.m. in the Community Building,
Present: Chairman Harpool, Orr, Nunley, Speck, Thompson, Roberts,
B. Davis, Price, Stout, Nelson, Ramsey, Gamble, E. Davis,
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Absent: Kamp, Hamilton.
1. Motion was made by B. Davis, seconded by Nelson, that the 4
minutes of the regular meeting of March 13, 19680 be approved.
Motion carried.
2. The City Secretary read Articles 9, 100 11 and 12 of the Charter
and members indicated that they desired to discuss the following
sections:
a. Article 10, Sections 10, 02 (a and b), 10.03 (a.I and b. 4 )
Sections 10,12 and 20,06 (b),
b, Article il, Sections 11.01 and 11.02 (d). '
C. Article 120 Section 12.03.
3. The next regular meeting is set for April 10, 1968.
Meeting adjourned at 9:45 p.m,
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March 13, 1968
Regular meeting of the Charter Revision Committee, City o f Denton, Texas, '
Wednesday, March 13, 19681 at 7:30 p.m. In the Community Building.
Present: Chairman Harpool, Thompson, B. Davis, Price, Roberts, Speck,
Nelson, Gamble, Stout, E. Davis, Hamilton, City Secretary.
K I Absent: Kamp, Ramsey, Orr.
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Motion was made by Speck, seconded by B. Davis, that the 5
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Motion carried.
2. The City Secretary read Articles 7 and 8 of the Charter and
members indicated they desired to discuss the following sections:
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A. Article 7, Sections 7.03, 7,23 and 7,29,
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Meeting adjourned at 9:05 p.m.
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February 28, 1968
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Regular meeting of the Charter Revision Committee, City of Denton, Texas,
Wednesday, February 28, 1968, at 7:30 p.m. in the Community Building.
Present: Chairman Harpool, Thompson, B. Davis, Price, Roberts, Ramsey,
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Speck, Orr, Stout, Hamilton, E. Davis, City Attorney, City
Secretary,
Absent: Kamp, Bryant, Gamble, Nelson.
i 1. A motion was made by Davis, seconded by Roberts, that the
minutes of the regular meeting of February 14, 1968, be i
approved. Motion carried.
2. The City Secretary read Article 3 through 6 of the Charter and j
members indicated that they desired to discuss the following I
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b. Article 4, Sections 4.01„4.02, 4.130 4.14.
c. Article 5, Sections 5.01, 5.02.
d. Article 6, Sections 6.02, 6.03, 6.04,
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meeting on Wednesday, March 13, 1968.
4. Meeting adjourned at 9:10 p.m.
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February 14, 1968
i Regular meeting of the Charter Revision Committee, City of Denton, Texas, Wednesday,
February 14, 1968, at 7:30 p.m, in the Community Building.
Present: Chairman Harpool, Thompson, B. Davis, Price, Bryant, Nelson, Gamble, Speck,
Stout, Orr, Hamilton, Dr. E. Davis, City Attorney, City Secretary.
Absent: Pat Roberts, Gordon Ramsey, Dr. H. W. Kamp
1. The minutes to include the meeting of January 31, 1968, were approved without
motion.
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2. Dr. John Thompson, Joint Universities Services Director, was introduced by the
Chairman with an invitation to direct questions to him during the course of the meeting.
3. A motion was made by Stout, seconded by Thompson to waive exclusions for
meetings of the committee. Motion carried.
1 4. A motion was made by Speck, seconded by Nelson that a quorum for the Committee
be set at ten (10) members and that the Roberts Rules of Order be adopted. Motion carried.
5. After discussion relative to possible charter and state law conflicts, a motion was
` made by Thompson, seconded by Speck that the City Attorney report to the Committee
present conflicts with state law. Motion carried,
6. The Committee agreed to set the second and fourth Wednesdays of each month as
regular meeting times, with meetings to be held at the Community Building at 7:30 p.m.
7. Chairman Harpool presented the suggestions and prices of the local newspaper
relative to publication of the Charter, but no formal action was taken.
j 8. The Committee agreed that no new items could be presented to the Committee
after 9:30 p.m., but that the item under discussion could continue after that time.
9. The Secretary began reading the present Charter and members indicated that they
desired to discuss the following sections:
a. Article I Sections 1. 03, 1.06
b. Article II Sections 2,01, 202, 2.031 2.050 2,06, 2.081 2.09,
2.10 and 2.11
The Committee agreed to discuss Articles III and IV at the next regular meeting on
February 28, 1968.
The meeting adjourned at 9:45 p.m.
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January 31, 1968
Organizational meeting of the Charter Revision Committee, City of Denton, Texas,
k Wednesday, January 31, 1968, at 7:30 p.m. In the Municipal Auditorium,
i Present: Mayor Zeke Martin, Charles Thompson, William Bryant, Gordon Ramsey,
Pat Roberts, Dr. David Speck, Jerry Stout, Dr. John Nelson, Edell Price, Tom ;carpool,
Mrs, Pat Hamilton, W. C. Orr, Dr. Ethlyn ravis, City Secretary.
Absent: Bruce Davis, Dt. H. W. Kamp, Dr. Reynolds Griffith
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1. Mayor Martin expressed his appreciation to the members of the Committee for
their willingness to serve their City and gave a brief explanation of the function of the
Committee, He pointed out that the Committee was a recommending body to the Council,
who in turn would take appropriate action,
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2. Orr inquired if the Committee could obtain outside help in studying the Charter.
The Mayor stated that this action would be at the discretion of the Committee.
3. With Mayor Martin presiding, a motion was made by Crr nominating Tom Harpool
as chairman with a second by Thompson, Bryant nominated Thompson with a second by
Harpool. By secret ballot, Harpool was declared the winner and took the chair.
A motion was made by Stout, seconded by Roberts that Thompson be made vice chairman.
Motion carried.
4. Chairman Harpool inquired of the Mayor It the Council was concerned with
specifics of the Charter or a study of the entire Charter. Mayor Martin replied that the
Committee should study the entire Charter and make such recommendations as they deemed
necessary.
5. A general discussion of ways and means of devising a plan for charter changes
was held, but no definite action was taken. The following points were discussed without
formal action:
a, Stout suggested that voters have an opportunity to vote on each individual
proposition. He stated that he felt the Charter should include the election of the Mayor
by the people.
b. An inctease to seven Councilmen was suggested by Stout.
o. Thompson suggested that each member make a study of the Charter and
mark items they feel should be discussed,
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d. Orr suggested public hearinys so that citizens, as well as department
heads of the City, could make suggestions.
e. Stout stated that there was some support among citizens for a place
system for electing Councilmen,
f. Stout stated that a line should be added to Section 10. 12 of the Charter
relative to rmdemnation of property for resale for property use. That line to read,
"condemnation of property for resale for private use must be accomplished by vote of
the people."
g. Mrs. Hamilton asked that suggestions from citizens be made in writing {
to the City Secretary's Office, who in turn would present the suggestions to the Committee,
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6, Dr. Nelson asked that Charters be obtained from cities of comparable size In
the state and copies of laws regulating other cities also be obtained.
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7, The City Secretary was requested to secure prices to publish the entire present
City Charter in the Denton Record Chronicle.
8. A -notion was made by Speck, seconded by Price that the first regular meeting
be held cn February 14, 1168, at 7:30 p.m. Motion carried.
The meeting adjourned at 1:00 p, m.
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Dear Mr. Holt 1
In view of the recently changed responsibility of t'ne "Charter Revision
Committee" and because of other Committee handicaps, there is little reason for
its continued discussions concerning
Charter. A city charter is the fundamental iconstitution rforngovernmentiin a
t municipalityl the public interest is not served when a charter to altered by
y personal whim and careless fancy.
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The work of the Revision Committee had at least some promise of being
constructive as long as the role of the group vas to recommend carefully con-
sidered amendments to the Charter. However, this Comittee's new assignment of
dnp selecting only those provisions on which (in the opinion of a majority of the
Committee) many people in Denton would like to vote is an absurdity. The beat
method of determining such matters of popular interest is to conduct a public
opinion poll, in which case a "charter revision committee" is superfluous. Since
far the Committee is not supposed to recommend charter revisions, there is obviously
~w } no reason for committee members to engage in any study and discussion of tho
I5 merits of slggested revisions.
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It is with regret that I Inform you of my resignation from the
Committee.
Sincerely yours,
H, W. Kamp
" Chairman, Department of Government
North Texas State University
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