Minutes April 13, 1993 'CITY OF DENTON CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
April 13, 1993
The Council convened into a Special Call Session at 5:15 p.m.
the Civil Defense Room of City Hall.
PRESENT: Mayor Castleberry; Council Members Brock, Chew,
Smith and Miller.
ABSENT: Mayor Pro Tem Hopkins
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Perry,
1. The Council convened into the Executive Session to discuss the
following:
A. Legal Matters
1. Considered Goldfields' claim.
B. Real Estate
C. Personnel/Board Appointments
2. The Council received a report and held a discussion regarding
jurisdiction of juveniles charged with Penal Code and other State
statute offenses and gave staff direction.
Sandra White, Municipal Judge, stated that the issue was whether
cases could be transferred from Criminal Court to Juvenile Court
even though the juvenile may not have had any convictions in a
Municipal Court and, if those cases could be transferred, what
would happen from there. The Legal Department felt that the cases
could be transferred and that there might be some procedures which
needed to be used to undertake the actual transfer. Once that was
accomplished, did the Juvenile Court have jurisdiction or could
they send the cases back to the Municipal Court. White presented
the Council with three handouts regarding the issue which was
included in the agenda back-up. The cases which White was
referring to did not deal with any traffic cases as those cases
could not be transferred nor could municipal ordinance violations.
The offense dealing with public intoxication required those cases
to be dealt with in Juvenile Court if the violator was younger than
17 years old.
Council Member Miller asked what other cities in Denton County were
doing.
White replied that she was not sure what others were doing.
Judge Whitten, County Court at Law #1, stated that other cities in
Denton County were handling their own juvenile cases.
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Peggy Fox, Chief Juvenile Probation Officer, stated that other
cities were dealing with first time Class C offenders by working
with counseling programs or a teen court to be dealt with by their
peers. If the case went to Juvenile Court, there tended to be
repeated violations whereas if the cases were handled in Municipal
Court there tended to not be repeated violations.
Whitten stated that there was a section of the law which indicated
that the Municipal Court may transfer cases but it was the
presumption of the law to handle the cases in the least restrictive
way which was in Municipal Court. The ramifications for cases in
Juvenile Court and the punishment could get very serious. Teen
Courts currently in session operated for approximately $200 per
year so that it was not a great cost to operate a teen court.
There could be serious problems to transfer cases to a higher
court.
Mayor Castleberry asked if the question was jurisdiction of the
cases.
White replied that that was the broad issue.
Mayor Castleberry' asked what was needed to be decide by the
Council.
White replied that the reason the item was on the agenda was that
in 1991 the Council took the position that if the law allowed the
City to waive its jurisdiction and send the cases to the Juvenile
Court, that should be done. She wanted to know if the Council
wanted to continue that practice.
Council Member Miller questioned if Council should look at the
total system and find out what was best for the juvenile offender,
for the family and for the City. If it were just an issue of
jurisdiction, the issue seemed simple. He felt that the issue was
to give direction to staff to look at and study the whole issue in
terms of doing a procedure which would be jurisdictionally correct
and was best for the offender and the costs involved.
Council Member Perry asked how many municipal courts in Denton
County handled their juveniles.
Whitten replied that all do of the courts did which was the
presumption that Municipal Courts would handle Class C cases.
Council Member Chew asked for more information regarding a teen
court.
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Whitten replied that a case would go to Municipal Court, be pleaded
guilty or no contest and then be referred to a teen court to
determine what sentence would be dealt the offender. That court
could be done with volunteers and did not have to be part of the
City.
Council Member Chew suggested that the City might want to look into
the possibility of a teen court.
Council Member Brock stated that she had seen information from
Odessa regarding their teen court. Their court had a paid employee
to run the program. She suggested exploring all of the
ramifications of such a program.
Whitten replied that it did not have to be a great expensive
project. The Lewisville program was an excellent program and was
not funded by City to a great extent. That teen court had
approximately an 80% success rate.
Council Member Perry asked if the Lewisville procedure began in
Municipal Court and was referred to teen court.
Whitten replied that that was one way to go. When the police
arrested a child, they had the option to directly refer the case to
the Lewisville teen court.
Council Member Perry asked if the Juvenile Court could take these
cases.
Whitten replied that the court was permitted to take the cases but
she was reluctant to do so unless there were unusual circumstances.
There were case laws which permitted the record of a young person
to be used against him until his 23rd birthday. Each conviction
increased the possibility of possible liability for additional
future punishment. There were some cases now which allowed
prosecutors to increase the punishment as a child got into trouble
again.
Council Member Perry asked if that were not the same procedure f~
Municipal Court.
Whitten replied that she did not know if the prosecutors would want
to do that with Municipal Court. A case handled in Juvenile Court
might look more serious on paper than it actually was.
Mayor Castleberry stated that the jurisdiction issue should be
settled and then look at other possibilities.
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White stated that she was not in disagreement with Whitten
regarding the philosophy that the law allowed the Municipal Court
to waive the jurisdiction and send cases to Juvenile Court. White
felt that Whitten thought there might be a better way to handle the
cases.
Whitten stated that the jurisdiction was set by law. She stated
that the Municipal Court should accept the responsibility to accept
the jurisdiction.
Mayor Castleberry stated that he thought there was some
disagreement of which court had jurisdiction of these cases.
White replied that she did not know if it was settled in terms of
public intoxication cases.
Whitten stated that she wanted the DWI and PI cases.
White stated that the procedure for a first time offender was that
the police would file the case in Municipal Court, the Municipal
Court would waive the case to Juvenile Court. Judge Whitten would
decide to take the case or not take the case. The original
position of Council was to send all juvenile cases to Juvenile
Court and not pick and chose cases. Whitten felt that there might
be a need to do a due process hearing on a case by case basis.
Based on that hearing, it would be determined which court would
handle the case.
Mayor Castleberry asked if the law allow that process.
Whitten and White both replied yes.
Council Member Miller asked if all cases were now being sent to
Juvenile Court or were they not being handled at all.
Whitten replied that they were not being handled at all.
White replied that originally the cases were going through the
Diversion Program but that that had ceased to happen.
Council Member Miller stated that he felt Council should begin
working on jurisdiction so that some cases could be handled in the
system and then differentiate those cases from ones which must go
White replied that once the cases were given to Municipal Court,
the Court must begin to set up a docket to handle the cases. If
the City did not waive jurisdiction, there must be a court
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mechanism set up to begin to handle those cases. There were
constraints to do such a docket at this time and the personnel to
do such cases.
Mayor Castleberry asked if there was any disagreement about
jurisdiction of these cases.
Whitten replied that the jurisdiction was set by law. The Family
Code suggested going toward the least restrictive program to handle
these cases. As far as the paper work involved, these cases could
be handled like adult cases but kept separate.
Council Member Miller stated that these cases were not currently
being handled. He asked what would happen if 10 cases were filed
today.
White replied that no one handled those cases at this time but that
the City had original jurisdiction.
Council Member Chew felt that part of the problem was with the
Council's decision of October 1991 and Council now needed to decide
whether to rescind that waiver.
Mayor Castleberry suggested that Council was requesting to return
the issue to staff and have staff do a report with possible
recommendations.
Council Member Chew felt that a discussion would be needed to
determine what needs had to be addressed along with possible budget
items.
Council Member Miller felt that staff needed to explore the
possibilities as expediently as possible for jurisdiction and what
was best for the City and for the juveniles. He suggested looking
at alternatives such as teen court and perhaps go in a different
direction than what was being done now.
Council Member Perry stated that Judge Whitten would take the PI
and DWI cases.
Whitten replied that was correct. One of the problems was that
cases were not currently being filed and she wanted to handle the
cases which were appropriate to handle.
Carl Williams presented information from the Texas Youth Commission
which was included in the agenda back-up. He was concerned with
the policies set up by the DISD regarding their discipline program.
He was concerned that there were still questions remaining
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with cases not
the suggestion
needed to know
would be paid.
regarding the policy. He felt that the city needed to be more
aware of how the policy would be handled and recommended that the
City look very closely before it became involved in this program.
Mayor Castleberry felt that the consensus of the Council was to ask
staff to look at various avenues to solve the problem.
Council Member Brock felt that something needed to be done to deal
being handled. The issue needed to be settled. If
was to rescind the earlier ordinance, then Council
how to do that, how much that would cost, and how it
Council Member Perry stated that it needed to be determined which
cases to waive and the conditions to waive to Juvenile Court.
White stated with the School District situation if the Police
Department went to a school and issued a ticket or arrested a
juvenile and decided to file the case, the Municipal Court did not
have authority to not file the case in Municipal Court. If a
juvenile were charged at a school with an offense, the case would
go to Municipal Court regardless of whether, after review, it was
felt that the casewould be better handled in Juvenile Court. Any
case which was a Class C misdemeanor would first be filed in
Municipal Court. Previously all cases were being transferred out
of Municipal Court to Juvenile Court.
Council Member Miller suggested directing staff to prepare an
ordinance to rescind the action to waive all jurisdiction to allow
Municipal Court to determine whether to keep a case or Send it on
to Juvenile Court. That procedure would have implications such as
cost, time, procedure, and equipment to consider. Those
implications would suggest what could be done and beyond that start
immediately and expand in a proactive way such as teen court and
counseling.
Council Member Smith suggested that there be communication between
the Police Department and the judges to determine the DISD policy.
City Manager Harrell stated that chief Jez had been invited to go
with a task force from the DISD to view a school which had this
type of policy in effect, chief Jez attended that visit but after
that there was no further communication from the DISD until the
city was informed, after the fact, that the policy had been
adopted. This was an issue which would probably fall back on the
Council and School Board. If the Council was not interested in
enforcing the policy, it could direct the City Manager to inform
chief Jez to not respond to DISD requests. This was a question
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which needed to determine policy. There had been no commitment
from Chief Jez on handling those kinds of cases. The Council
needed to determine how it would handle the DISD policy.
Whitten stated that some Denton officers had approached her about
the fact that the Class C misdemeanors were not being handled. The
officers were frustrated and concerned about such cases in the
City.
Mayor Castleberry felt that the consensus of the Council was to
move ahead as quickly as possible and to have staff work on the
details dealing with juveniles in Municipal Court.
White agreed with Council Member Miller's suggestions that the
Council first needed to decide whether to rescind its previous
directive regarding the handling of juveniles plus the immediate
problem of not filing cases. The next step would be to determine
long-term issues such as teen court.
JudgeWhitten suggested that the Council might want some statistics
on the number of cases involved.
Consensus of the Council was to include the item on the next work
session and then possibly a formal agenda item.
3. The Council received a report and held a discussion regarding
an update on the State's progress with the Hartfelt Humane Society
and gave staff direction.
City Manager Harrell stated that this item would be placed on the
Council's agenda for the next few meetings in order to provide
Council with an update on the situation at Hartfelt Humane Society.
Catherine Tuck, Administrative Assistant, stated that since the
last Council meeting several events had occurred. Animal Control
Officers, several times a day on a daily basis, were going past the
facility, to do a drive-by inspection. The officers were keeping
track of the type of animals seen and if there were any kind of
activity that could be seen from the outside of the facility. To
date, the same three dogs had been seen on the property. Hartfelt
was an animal shelter and also a training/grooming facility. It
was hard to distinguish why an animal was at the facility from the
outside as it could be there for adoption or for other purposes.
Jerry Drake, Assistant City Attorney, was in close contact with the
attorney for the Texas Department of Health and had begun weekly
correspondence with that Department. He had also drafted a letter
expressing the City's concern and asked to be kept apprised of the
situation.
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Nonie Kull, Environmental Health Services Manager, had been in
contact on a veteranrian level, with the Texas Department of
Health. Kull explained the Council's concerns and the public's
concerns and requested that the Department continue enforcement
activities and keep the City informed as well. The Department had
been at the shelter once since the initial inspection. During the
second inspection, an adoption was taking place which resulted in
a more forceful action from the Department regarding noncompliance.
The Department had indicated that it would continue to enforce the
State statute and might ask the City for assistance. Tuck
suggested that the City staff be a focal point for the gathering of
evidence which would be sent on to the Department of Health.
Council Member Brock stated that members of the Humane Society had
been in touch with the Department's vetenary staff and had several
calls regarding the facility.
Council Member Smith questioned a letter sent to Hartfelt regarding
discharge from the facility into a nearby creek. Was the 20 day
waiting period according to City ordinance.
Tuck replied that the letter referred to a section of the city code
which required a 20 day time period.
Council Member Miller stated that he had a problem with a 20 day
time period to wait for abatement. There must be something else
which could be done especially in the case of a contaminant being
discharged into a creek.
City Manager Harrell stated that staff could investigate whether it
would be possible to amend the city ordinance or if a State statute
was involved.
Council Member Miller stated that there needed to be a
differentiation between a nuisance and an immediate health problem.
City Manager Harrell stated that the ordinance set up an
administrative appeal process which an individual could use to
refute an allegation against him. There was a due process
framework involved.
Council Member Miller stated that within that framework there must
be procedures which the City could do regarding the discharge.
Tuck stated that this case was similar to a building inspection
case. There were certain times when the City had the right to
inspect a building. If there was a complaint that a building was
substandard, there needed to be evidence to go in and inspect the
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building. Hartfelt had ordered the Animal Control staff off their
property and could have them arrested if they returned. There
needed to be evidence and an affidavit of probable cause to get a
search warrant to go into the facility.
Debra Drayovitch, City Attorney, stated that the provision in the
ordinance stated that the City may enter where authorized by law.
There were only narrow exceptions where police officers or animal
control officers could enter property without the owner's consent.
Restaurants were open to the public so access was easier.
Council Member Miller felt that there should be a similar type of
ordinance for this type of case. If a search warrant was needed,
then the City needed to get such and follow through with the
process.
City Manager Harrell stated that the City's position to date was
that there was a State statute and that statute gave authority to
a State agency the responsibility to enforce that statute. Staff
would work diligently with the State agency to collect evidence,
help to monitor the situation and make sure that the State followed
through with the statute.
Council Member Miller felt that with a more serious violation,
there needed to be more aggressive and pointed action. If there
were no city ordinance regarding contaminants going into a stream
and there existed a condition similar to the one alleged at
Hartfelt, would not the City want to take more action than merely
following through with State procedures. The current ordinance had
references to private citizens and other situations but nothing to
deal with a situation which involved State regulations.
Mayor Castleberry asked if the letter from the State to Hartfelt
indicated that Hartfelt could no longer operate as a shelter until
it was in compliance.
Tuck replied correct.
Mayor Castleberry stated that the facility should be closed and
that City people could not go on the premise. Could it be
determined if the facility was still operating as a shelter.
Kull stated that she had no indication that the facility was
operating as a shelter. There was activity there but the animals
on site could be the personal property of the owner of the
property. Those particular animals had been seen at the owner's
residence.
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Mayor Castleberry asked if grooming activities could be done.
Kull replied that Hartfelt could not operate in regards to
sheltering stray and unwanted animals.
Mayor Castleberry stated that dog grooming could be done.
Kull replied correct.
Council Member Brock asked if there was an adoption after the
shelter was to have been closed.
Tuck replied that the State letter indicated that an animal was
adopted after the first inspection had been done.
Council Member Perry asked if hook worms were a concern from the
discharge in the creek.
Kull replied that it might be a possibility but not a strong
probability.
Tuck presented Council with a handout from Kull regarding the
condition of the dogs from Hartfelt.
Mayor Castleberry asked if the City could ask the State to make
another inspection.
city Manager Harrell replied yes and that the City had been
encouraging the State to make those inspections. If the. City could
not get sufficient response from the appropriate appointed
officials, it might be necessary to contact the appropriate
legislators to get the inspections done.
Mayor Castleberry asked if the City could go to the State and
indicate that it was suspected that the Shelter was still in
operation.
Tuck replied that that could be requested.
Council Member Miller expressed a concern to prevent this situation
in the future. He suggested studying Chapter 6 of the Code to
determine if such a situation could be prevented from occurring
again.
City Attorney Drayovitch replied that staff could look at areas
where the city was not preempted by the State and prepare more
regulations for the Council's consideration.
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Mayor Castleberry asked if Council would like staff to contact the
State Health Department and ask for the quickest possible
reinspection of the Hartfelt facility.
City Manager Harrell suggested that Council might direct the Mayor
on behalf of the Council to make contact and formalize that
request.
Perry motioned, Chew seconded to authorize the Mayor to communicate
with the State Department regarding this issue. On roll vote, Brock
"aye", Miller "aye", Smith "aye", Chew "aye", Perry "aye", and
Mayor Castleberry "aye". Motion carried unanimously.
Council Member Smith asked staff to review the current ordinances
regarding animals and the discharge of containments into water.
4. The Council received a report and held a discussion regarding
alternatives to the ad-valorem tax and gave staff direction.
John McGrane, Executive Director for Finance, stated that at the
last Council planning session, a brief presentation had been made
regarding the problems associated with the ad valorem tax. The ad
valorem tax had two uses of the revenue which was received. One
use was to pay the debt service on general obligation bonds,
certificates of obligation and contractual obligations. As
discussed at the planning session, a general rule of thumb was a
one-third percentage to debt service and a two-thirds percentage to
operations and maintenance. The other use was for the general fund
operations and maintenance budget. This was approximately one-
third of general fund revenues which was a large portion of the
fund. The only way for the tax to grow was for new development or
an expansion of the market value of property. A problem with the ad
valorem taxes was the effect of tax exempt properties on the tax
roll. Denton had a considerable amount of tax exempt property
within its corporation limits which took away from property being
added to the tax roll. The presence of those institutions still
required services to be provided to those areas. A final area
where ad valorem taxes, as a primary general fund base, caused
problems was in the area of comDetition for tax dollars. The City
currently competed for ad valorem property tax with the County and
the School District.
City Manager Harrell stated that Lewisville had a population
approximately two-thirds the size of Denton. To get the same
amount of revenue in proportion to the assessed value, Lewisville's
tax rate should be approximately $.47. McGrane's chart and other
back-up materials illustrated why Denton was at such a disadvantage
by relying heavily on property tax due to the kind of community it
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was. Denton's tax rate was high because it had a low assessed
valuation compared to other cities of the same size.
Council Member Perry indicated that limitations of non-profit
organizations had been noted which indicated a negative cast. He
also saw a positive cast to those organizations.
McGrane replied that the limitations were as they applied to the ad
valorem tax. There were other offsets in the areas of revenue
which would be an asset in those cases. Those institutions which
were tax exempt would help contribute toward the financing of basic
services through payroll tax dollars. The limitations of those
institutions were only in regards to the ad valorem tax. There was
a need to look at alternative revenue sources which took those
limitations and made them assets. In order to be fiscally
responsive to the changing environments, alternative revenue
sources needed to be explored. One alternative was the sales tax.
The State Legislature was looking at a possible amendment to the
state tax code which would allow Denton to vote on increasing its
sales tax percentage in one-eighth increments up to a maximum of
one-half of one percent. This would allow those areas that were
tax exempt to help contribute toward the financing of basic
services.
Council Member Miller asked what the ad valorem tax would bring in
for this year.
McGrane replied approximately $13.1-13.2 million which was a
combination of the debt service and the operation and maintenance.
The general fund side was approximately $8.9 million.
Council Member Miller asked if $3 million were received through a
sales tax and reduced property tax in the same amount, the tax
would be reduced approximately 20-25%.
McGrane replied that it would be estimated at $.12-$.16 on the
basis of $.71.
Council Member Perry asked for the advantages of levying a sales
tax and decreasing ad valorem tax to the same amount as far as
gaining revenue.
McGrane replied that it would not be a revenue gainer. None of
these alternatives would be revenue gainers. The first concern was
of using one third of the ad valorem tax into the base of the
general fund. When that base was reduced, taxes had to be increased
in order to keep even. With a sales tax, the base was spread out
so that it was more reliable over time and did not have
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fluctuations in the rate.
City Manager Harrell stated that the half cent sales tax
legislation indicated that if a city voted in the extra half cent
sales tax, it had to lower property tax with a like decrease.
Because of the nature of the make-up of Denton, a sales tax
increase would spread the available revenue throughout the
community and not rely so heavily on ad valorem taxes. There would
be a shift from the property tax to other sources. For industrial
development purposes, new industries focused on property taxes.
Denton would always have a large property tax rate unless other
sources of revenue could take the place of the property tax.
Council Member Miller stated that he was a supporter of the
universities, but in the tax revenue situation, the half cent sales
tax would not bash universities, but enhance the city. The
universities were a liability in regards to ad valorem tax rates.
McGrane stated that another alternative to the ad valorem tax was
impact fees. These fees were assessed on properties based on the
additional costs of service a particular development had on the
City. It would shift the burden of paying for increased service
levels based on the increments of ~hose new properties.
Council Member Brock stated that several years ago there had been
a committee which looked into the possibility of formulating and
instituting impact fees. The Legislature passed a law which made
it extremely difficult to assess an impact fee. The Committee
concluded that it would be almost impossible to pass such a fee.
City Manager Harrell replied that the law had been clarified since
that time. The vast majority of cities in the area now had impact
fees.
Council Member Brock stated that at this time an impact fee would
not have a large impact on the City. This was not a short term
solution at this time.
City Manager Harrell replied that it would be another tool to h~lp
on an increment basis. It would not help immediately but if it
were on the books, it would be easier to institute.
McGrane stated that the next alternative was user fees which
centered on the premise of those who use the service pay for the
service. The concept was that the revenue received from the fees
either totally or substantially paid for the cost of the service
provided. Types of services in the alternative might include
ambulance fees or restaurant inspection fees. It was recommended
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that if this type of fee were to be considered, a comprehensive
revenue fee study be done in order to determine the actual cost of
service. A Storm Water Utility might be another mechanism to take
some of the cost from the ad valorem tax and move that to another
area which would hold or decrease the ad valorem tax. Park
dedication fees, an additional alternative, would utilize fees from
the broad general tax base and apportion them to specific areas
which were tied to various developments. A park dedication fee
would require mandatory cash contributions and/or land dedication
of park and recreation facilities. Currently the City had a
voluntary program and Council might want to discuss whether to make
such a program mandatory.
city Manager Harrell stated that several years ago the City
implemented a voluntary program for developers to encourage them to
make a dedication of park land. There had not been much
development since that program was instituted but with the
development which had happened, the program was not working. Most
cities had a park dedication fee. Denton dealt with parks only
from property taxes.
McGrane stated that the last alternative was special districts/
special assessments which were a means of creating districts that
generated revenue to pay for specific purposes.
City Manager Harrell asked the Council if they were interested in
going forward with any of these suggestions.
Council Member Miller stated that he was interested in pursuing the
investigation of these options and asked for more information in
order to facilitate better planning.
Consensus of the Council was to investigate all the options for
further study.
5. The Council received a report and held a discussion regarding
auditing the G.T.E. franchise agreement and gave staff direction.
John McGrane, Executive Director for Finance, stated that the City
had franchise agreements with the major utilities and some smaller
utilities for the use of City right-of-ways for utility lines. The
GTE franchise started in the 1940's and was established for a 20
year time period. From the 1940's though the 1980's telephone
billing was a very simple process with local service and long
distance service. The accounting for the billing was very simple
and most of the agreements were based on that simple billing
process. The City's agreement with GTE stipulated a billing of 2%
of the annual gross receipts for local exchange transmission
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service. The 1983 agreement was approved for 20 years and could
only be changed by mutual agreement between the two parties. An
audit of the franchise noted an error in the formula for
determining the percentage. The formula only addressed what GTE
considered to be the gross receipts for local exchange transmission
services. With the breakup of the Bell system, revenues were
accounted for in various other codes and the audit verified that
certain customer codings were not included in the base calculation
of the formula. As a result of the audit, GTE changed its base to
reflect the proper allocation and there was no indication that the
formula was not being allocated correctly. The City of Garland had
sued GTE on what should be included in gross receipt revenues. If
the City desired to review the franchise agreement and/or the
receipts from the enforcement of that agreement, four types of
action could be taken. (1) Do nothing and collect 2% under the
revenues that GTE indicated. (2) Send out for request for proposals
to audit the books to determine if the formula was correctly being
applied and how much potential revenue GTE not paying. (3) Look at
joining in the legal process with Garland and have a lawfirm
represent the City in order for the courts to determine what the
definition of gross receipts for local transmission service should
be. (4) Discuss the situation with GTE and try to redefine the
franchise agreement. There was a preliminary indication that GTE
might be willing to look at the agreement and may be developing
some type of proposal.
Council Member Miller asked if GTE considered such services as
service repair, directory assistance, and operator assisted calls
as non-local services.
McGrane replied that those services were not used for the
transmission of local service. GTE's basic argument was that they
were paying for the use of right-of-way for their lines and that
those services were not included in the service for local
transmission of calls.
Council Member Miller asked if the main area of dispute was what
was included in the base.
McGrane replied that there were two areas of dispute. One was if
the base was being reported correctly and the second was what was
in the base. He suggested if the agreement were amended that it
clearly define what was included in gross revenue, whether to go
from a point forward or go back and to limit the number of years
for the agreement due to rapid changes in technology.
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Council Member Miller stated that the current agreement would go to
the year 2003. GTE had not voluntarily agreed to review and amend
the agreement. With the remaining 10 years of the agreement, there
was a dispute as to what was included in the base.
McGrane indicated that the inclusion of the phrase "for the
rendition of local exchange telephone transmission service" was
included in second franchise.
Council Member Miller asked if there was a basic difference with
GTE at this time.
McGrane replied yes in the definition of what was to be included in
the gross receipts.
Council Member Miller asked if the City asked for an audit, would
it be reasonable to see how much the amount would be and then go on
from there.
McGrane replied that after an audit it would be necessary to
determine if the City would want to go back retroactively or
mutually agree to go forward from a certain point. He asked for
direction on whether the Council wanted him to contact GTE to see
if they would be willing to amend the agreement. If not, did the
Council want a request for proposal for an audit or for legal
services. Or did the Council wish to not pursue the matter.
Council Member Miller suggested talking with GTE to possibly make
changes.
McGrane stated that that was done in 1988 and GTE did not agreed to
do so.
Consensus of the Council was to have preliminary discussions with
GTE to determine if they would be agreeable to make changes in the
franchise. A report would be made to Council and Council would
then make a decision on how to proceed.
6. The Council received a report and held a discussion regarding
a storm water utility and gave staff direction.
City Manager Harrell stated that approximately 9 months ago,
Council received a citizen committee report regarding this subject.
After intensive study, the Committee's recommendation was that the
City should move ahead and form a storm water utility system in
preparation for new EPA mandates. Council held a formal public
hearing concerning the ordinance to establish a storm water utility
system and at that meeting voted to table the ordinance creating
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the utility and gave staff direction to bring the matter back to
work sessions for further discussion. Council held several
meetings regarding the issue. Out of those meeting, staff
interpreted that Council consensus was to ask staff to produce
specific information regarding any remaining questions. Out of
those meetings, there was a sense that some time in the future the
City would probably need to establish a storm water utility. It
appeared that the City would come under the EPA regulations on
October 1, 1994. When the utility was established, there would be
certain guiding principles that the City would take note of which
would guild future councils as they moved to implementation. Staff
would like to respond to any further Council questions and have
Council look at the draft resolution which was prepared in order to
formally consider it at a future meeting.
Bob Nelson, Executive Director for Utilities, stated that there
were three or four remaining questions the Council had regarding
this issue. (1) What kind of major projects were anticipated in
the storm water drainage area. Two different documents were
included in the back-up regarding those projects. One was a list
of approved storm water/drainage projects that the Planning and
Zoning Commission and the Council had approved to be included as
part of the capital improvement program. The second part of that
list included projects in the planning process at the present time
and operation and maintenance equipment which were being looked at
as part of the operation budget. The second document was a list of
projects of current needs. (2) What type of improvements could be
made in the central part of the city with channel improvements and
possibly narrow the flood plains. (3) Comparison of rates was
another Council question. Staff had looked at many different
options such as what was presently collected from the residential
customer group, what would be collected out of that group if a
$1.25 fee were charged with different alternatives for varying
amounts.
Jerry Clark, Director of Engineering and Transportation, presented
proposed CIP projects, the list of which was included in the agenda
back-up. Operation and maintenance enhancements were included in
the list of projects.
City Manager Harrell stated that none of the projects on the list
were funded projects and no bond money had been approved. Any
projects needed to be done from the property tax dollars would
compete with other projects.
Council Member Brock asked if the estimated $800,000 per year would
take care of the debt retirement.
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City Manager Harrell replied that that was part of the debate. If
all of the current $800,000 worth of expenditures were picked up,
the answer would be no. It would have to be higher than that to
take on some of the above projects. If the current debt were left
on the property tax side and enough fees were generated to reach
the $800,000 level, there would be enough bond capacity to fund the
projects at the $1.50 level.
Council Member Chew left the meeting.
Clark presented a detailed list of needs which were included in the
agenda back-up materials. Those indicated needs in the community
which in the long term would provide a good drainage system. There
was a lot of land which was being affected by poor drainage and
possible flooding and a good drainage system would help solve some
of those problems.
Lee Allison, Director of Water Engineering and Operations,
presented a comparison regarding fees vs. tax comparison by rate
class which was included in the agenda back-up materials. The
residential fee needed to provide $800,000 for a storm water
utility would be $1.50 per unit and $14.92 per imperious acre for
commercial activities. He also presented a comparison of $400,000
out of fees and $400,000 out of taxes. Fees for $400,000 would be
$.75 for a residential unit and $7.46 for imperious acre for
commercial activities. He presented various graphs detailing the
comparison of the effect of a fee on various businesses.
City Manager Harrell stated asked if the resolution captured the
guiding principles as requested by Council and asked for direction
on how to proceed. The options were to put the resolution and
ordinance back on agenda for the April 27th or the May 4th meeting
or take some other action from Council.
Council Member Perry stated that it was difficult to decide on the
resolution before it was settled on any type of solutions. He felt
it would be better to decide the question of implementation prior
to making the decision to have a storm water utility. It was part
of the decision making process. Policy issues should be discussed
before the Council had decided to have storm water utility. He
would rather take time to do the policy decisions now.
Mayor Castleberry felt that the resolution would help further the
utility along in the process but that Council would not be locked
into it at that point.
council Member Miller stated that when the Council dealt with the
rate structure, there would be public hearings and if the Council
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had not decided on establishing a storm water utility, it would be
difficult to direct staff on how to proceed. The resolution put
the Council on record as to which direction to go. As long as the
City was dealing with ad valorem taxes in this area, it would not
be doing a complete job.
Council Member Perry stated that it was hard for him to make such
a decision without the facts in advance.
Council Member Miller felt that the Council should proceed with the
resolution.
Mayor Castleberry stated that he was ready to move ahead with the
project.
Council Member Brock stated that one of the advantages to making
the decision to establish the utility was that there would be a
framework to begin discussions and provided the need for other
details. The resolution would get the Council to a position to
where the Council could proceed with a detailed study and public
hearings.
Council Member Smith expressed a concern that the fees would not be
used for what the public had perceived which would be for the new
EPA mandates. If the fees were used for drainage projects instead
of EPA projects, she would have a problem.
Council Member Perry stated that the EPA mandates would not be
required until 1994. There was a plan currently in operation with
funding for that plan. He felt there was plenty of time to consider
the policy issues involved and to have all in place before approval
was given.
Council Member Miller felt that if the drainage issues were placed
in the regular CIP with all the other projects, the City would not
be in good shape for drainage and flood control. The storm water
utility represented the vehicle to proceed with those types of
projects. After public hearings were held, the Council might
decide not to proceed. The resolution and ordinance would force
the Council and the citizens to zero in on drainage problems. The
EPA requirements were important but there were many other issues
involved in the process.
Council Member Smith stated that the Council and staff would need
to help the public understand the change in the needs and an
education process was needed.
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Mayor Castleberry asked if the Council would like to put the
resolution and ordinance on the 27th city Council agenda so that
all members could consider the items.
Brock motioned, Miller seconded to place the resolution and
ordinance regarding the storm water utility on the City Council
agenda for April 27th. On roll vote, Brock "aye", Miller "aye",
Smith "aye", Perry "nay", and Mayor Castleberry "aye". Motion
carried with a 4-1 vote.
city Manager Harrell stated that there had been one public hearing
on the ordinance and did the Council want another public hearing
regarding the matter.
Consensus of the Council was to proceed with a public hearing on
the items.
7. The Council received a report and held a discussion regarding
Community Development Block Grant priorities and gave staff
direction.
Lloyd Harrell, City Manager, stated that at the Council's mid-year
planning session, the Council had discussed the Community
Development Block Grant program. Specifically, a concern was
expressed regarding the amount of money in the program which was
rising dramatically over the past year and the good possibility of
the city receiving HOME dollars which would provide more money for
housing rehabilitation. This was one of the few areas in which the
Council could have some policy discretionary authority. Based on
that, Council had asked staff to look at the current policy and
make suggestions on how to incorporate the Council into the
decision making process regarding Block Grant funding. Staff had
proposed a policy which gave Council more input but would not
diminish the role of Committee. The two changes in the process
included (1) schedule with Council briefings about eligible
Community Block Grant projects and have Council do a priority
ranking of expenditures of block grant money. These would be
general directions for staff and the Committee. (2) Currently all
City departments submitted their proposed projects independently
for Block Grant money. A proposed change was to have internal
rankings done by the administrative staff and give all the projects
to the Committee. After that, the process would proceed as it
currently did. These revisions would involve the Council more in
the decision making process. These proposals had not been
discussed with the Block Grant Committee but if Council was
comfortable with the procedure, staff would proceed with the
process.
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Barbara Ross, Community Development Administrator, stated that the
current priorities were set by Council several years ago and the
idea of Council setting priorities yearly kept the Committee
current with the Council's wishes.
Council Member Brock asked if the Council would establish a set of
guidelines for the Committee.
Ross replied correct.
Council Member Miller asked how that would tie in with the rankings
from the administrative staff.
City Manager Harrell stated that it would be a combination of both.
The Council would give the general guidelines and as part of the
process, the Council could suggest specific guidelines to be
included. The staff recommendations would be on an equal footing
with other recommendations.
Council Member Miller asked if the Committee was aware that the
Council was suggesting a change.
Ross replied that the Chair of the Committee was aware but the
whole Committee was not.
Council Member Miller suggested taking the proposals back to the
Committee so that it was aware of the proposed changes.
Council Member Smith stated that her question also related to the
Committee and she agreed with Council Member Miller that the
proposals should be reviewed by the Committee before they were
implemented.
Council Member Brock asked if the Council had ever not followed the
CDBG Committee recommendations.
Ross replied that the Council had always followed the
Committee recommendations but not always the Human Resources
Committee recommendations.
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Consensus of the Council was to take the proposed recommendations
to the CDBG Committee.
Ross asked if the CDBG Committee supported the proposed changes,
did the Council want to discuss them again or implement the changes
in 1994.
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Consensus of COuncil was that if the Committee agreed with the
changes, they would be implemented in 1994.
8. The Council received a report and held a discussion regarding
the Vision for Denton - 21st Century project and gave staff
direction.
City Manager Harrell stated that visits were being made to the
seven agencies which had been identified as sponsor groups for the
project. A visit had been made to the Chamber of Commerce and a
presentation made to the combined Board of Directors and the
Economic Development Committee. The Economic Development Committee
had recommended approval by the Chamber. A commitment was needed
from the City to be a sponsor for the project and a decision on
which Council Members would be on the Committee. The Mayor would
be the chairman of the project and the City Manager would be the
project manager. Council needed to discuss where a vision room
would be located which would be a communication room where groups
could meet and where projects could be displayed. The Planning
Committee felt it should be in a city facility if one might be
available. The final consideration was the city's contribution as
far as the budget was concerned for the project.
Council Member Perry suggested using the term "communication
center" for the project rather than a "vision room". He expressed
a concern regarding the formation of a cabinet which would have a
monitoring overview function of the Council. The impact of that
cabinet was noted throughout the document presented to Council. He
felt that Council was not in a position to authorize a group to
have a monitoring function of the activities of the Council. That
was not acceptable to him and he felt it was not in the Council's
authority to do so.
Council Member Miller replied that the cabinet would not monitor
the Council but would rather monitor the progress of the project.
The sponsoring agencies would have representatives on the Cabinet
who would help keep the project on track. There would be a
reporting process to keep the project moving and to suggest ways to
keep working on the project.
Council Member Perry replied that the cabinet would be the overall
policy making group for project. The Council was one of the main
agencies of the project. The cabinet would be the policy making
group which would determine policy with respect to the visioning
project for the City Council. Perry listed other responsibilities
for which the cabinet would be responsible.
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Council discussed the role of the cabinet in relation to the City
Council.
Council Member Brock stated that one of the goals at the Council's
planning session was strategic long-range planning. Strategic
planning was thought of as a five to seven planning period and was
not as long ranging as Council felt was needed.
Council Member Perry stated that he was excited about project but
was concerned about control of the project. There would be
fourteen individuals in control of the project. He was expressing
his concern about the project and the control of the project. It
was apparent to him that there would be difficulties with the
control of the project. Perhaps if there was a constitutional base
to move from, he might be able to deal with it.
Consensus of the Council was to move ahead on the implementation of
the project.
Council Member. Smith asked for a cost estimate for the project.
City Manager Harrell stated that the item would be on the April
27th agenda and would detail commitment levels.
9. Miscellaneous matters from the City Manager.
A. John McGrane, Executive Director for Finance, stated that
he had been working with First Southwest, the City's financial
advisor, regarding the possibility of refunding some of the City's
existing debt on both the revenue side and the general obligation
side. Three basic rates would need to be watched on the revenue
side - the long bond treasuries, the revenue bond municipal rate,
and the taxable rate. There was a potential of doing an advanced
refund on a taxable issue. It would save a lot of money for the
City to do a taxable refunding. Normally this would be done with
a competitive bid sale which was a cumbersome process taking at
least 45-60 days to completed. Because of the fluctuations of the
rate and because of the complexity of the issue, staff was
recommending a negotiated sale. An interpretation from bond
counsel gave approval to do a negotiated sale. The City would work
with an underwriter to negotiate a certain sale date and negotiate
a rate. Once the Council decided to go ahead with the project,
they would need to move quickly. Staff was anticipating a
potential savings with the general obligations in the $1 million
range and a savings on the revenue side of approximately $2-3.5
million. The City's financial advisor and bond counsel had been
involved in the discussions.
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B. Harrell stated that the Council committee assigned to
assist with the planning for the Council's planning session had
recommended Bob Saunders as a facilitator, to hold the session on
June 25-26 and recommended the DFW Airport Hilton. The format
would be similar as in the past with staff Presentations and one
day with Council and immediate staff. He would work with Saunders
on related topics for Council.
Consensus of Council to proceed with the schedule.
10. New Business
The following items of New Business were suggested by Council
Members for future agendas:
A. Council Member Brock asked about an ordinance dealing
with public gatherings. There was a problem in southeast Denton on
a particular cul-de-sac where individuals gathered on the street
and held a party. Technically they were not on private property
but rather in the street. She asked about a possible ordinance to
solve such a situation.
B. Council Member Brock asked about an ordinance dealing
with noise coming from automobile radios, etc.
C. Mayor Castleberry announced that the face on the "Welcome
to Denton" sign had been installed during the week.
With no further business,the meeting was adjourned at 10:56 p.m.
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